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Former good articleHenri Brocard was one of the Mathematics good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
Did You Know Article milestones
DateProcessResult
January 19, 2008Peer reviewReviewed
January 31, 2008Good article nomineeListed
January 1, 2013Good article reassessmentDelisted
Did You Know A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on January 1, 2008.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ...that the Brocard points, the Brocard circle and the Brocard triangle are named after French geometer Henri Brocard, who spent most of his life studying meteorology with no notable original contributions to the subject?
Current status: Delisted good article

Meteorology?

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Why the fixation with Brocard NOT having made significant original discoveries in meteorology? Seems that that would be true of most meteorologists and he certainly did make contributions to geometry. 04:48, 1 January 2008 (UTC)Tom

What fixation? It's mentioned only twice. It's an interesting fact, which I suppose is why it was featured on DYK. (I wouldn't know, I don't nominate it) Nousernameslefttalk and matrix? 18:33, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Successful good article nomination

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I am glad to report that this article nomination for good article status has been promoted. This is how the article, as of January 31, 2008, compares against the six good article criteria:

1. Well written?: Yes
2. Factually accurate?: Yes
3. Broad in coverage?: Yes
4. Neutral point of view?: Yes
5. Article stability? Yes
6. Images?: Yes

Nicely done. If you feel that this review is in error, feel free to take it to Good article reassessment. Thank you to all of the editors who worked hard to bring it to this status, and congratulations.— Avi (talk) 16:39, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Automated self-review...

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You may wish to browse through User:AndyZ/Suggestions for further ideas. Thanks, Nousernamesleftcopper, not wood 21:29, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Personal data

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According to the article by Guggenbuhl in the Dictionary of Scientific Biography he died in Bar-le-Duc and not in Kensington.--Meilenweit (talk) 16:59, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

GA Reassessment

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This discussion is transcluded from Talk:Henri Brocard/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the reassessment.

This article very clearly does not meet modern GA standards. Even a passing glance reveals unreferenced paragraphs, outstanding citation requests, dead links in references and poorly formatted references. Further, I have serious doubts about whether this article is comprehensive. The article has barely 900 words; I've written start-class Did You Knows that were longer. I would ask a representative of the Wikipedia:WikiProject Mathematics to comment on the comprehensiveness, as I am a sociologist, and don't feel qualified to judge the "Contributions" section. PS. Also, MoS failure with regard to WP:LEAD (does not seem like a comprehensive summary, contains citations and claims not present in the body). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 21:23, 16 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have no real opinion on the topic seen globally -I am not experienced enough about the :en Wikipedia GA standards- but your critics seem harsh : there is certainly one dead link (singular, not plural) used once as a referrence proving that Brocard was a geometer (we could do without referrence for that, could not we ?) and at another place to source that his contributions in meteorology were substandard (this opinion could be removed, if no other source can be found). No obvious "unreferenced paragraphs" except perhaps the quite trivial one about his attendance to International Congress of Mathematicians, but it happens to appear in source 6. Nothing to say about formatting, it is not my cup of tea. French Tourist (talk) 07:01, 17 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • The length itself is not part of the criteria, but it is an indicator that the article may not be broad enough (so is the references section, which suggests more information is available). The French article is a GA and might be useful in assessing the broadness. The citation needed tags need to be taken care of and WP:lead is part of the criteria, although there is no rule against using citations the other points are valid. The overuse of single sentence paragraphs is also a prose issue in my opinion. AIRcorn (talk) 18:40, 29 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
How is the reassessment coming along. AIRcorn (talk) 15:01, 27 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Obviously, nobody cares about it, so I am going to fail the article. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 11:39, 1 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Assessment comment

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The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Henri Brocard/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

*This article needs:
    • A portrait of Brocard.
    • Expansion to the biography and meteorology sections.  Done
    • References for the expansion.  Done
Nousernameslefttalk and matrix? 19:31, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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