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"Murry helps Rhonda"

The entry is incorrect in that Murry Wilson interrupted the first session. Also, the way the article is worded makes it appear that it was the first version ("Help Me, Ronda") when Murry was present. And that Murry "interrupted" the session. This is entirely false.

Listening to the session tape makes it obvious that 1) it was by far *not* the first session but the vocal overdub session, and 2) it was the hit single re-make. Also, it's generally agreed on that Murry was actually *invited* to the session (and the Wilson brothers' mother Audree was also present), so "interrupted" might be a harsh term; he was also coaching, and at various points in the tape, it's implied that he's actually helping Brian before things get out of hand.

I'll make a slight revision, but when I can get a solid piece of information -- session date, etc. -- I'll make a more solid revision. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ScatteredFrog (talk • contribs) 15:26, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The most probable session date is March 4th 1965, at Western studio. Andrew G. Doe (talk) 22:49, 6 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Based on a real person or not? And was it Barbara Ann???

The second paragraph of the intro is not consistent with the body of the article, and feels like it doesn't belong.

First, it states that "According to Wilson, "Help Me, Rhonda" was based on a real person." However the background section of the article states: "According to Brian Wilson, "Rhonda" was not based on a real person." (emphasis mine)

Further, it claims that the song "was inspired by a real woman named Barbara Ann" which sounds like it should be true of a different famous Beach Boys song.

I don't know enough about the origin of this song to fix this, but it is very confusing. Teresacurl (talk) 17:31, 17 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

That's an odd discrepancy. I wrote much of the body of the article and I don't recall info saying it was based on a real person. "Barbara Ann" was also a cover, so I'm guessing this is nonsense. I'm going to delete for now. Beatleswhobeachboys (talk) 00:19, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]