Talk:Heinrich Klöpper

This page was proposed for deletion by K.e.coffman (talk · contribs) on 13 April 2017 with the comment:
#REDIRECT List of Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross recipients (Ka–Km) -- pls see Talk page
It was contested by Icewhiz (talk · contribs) on 2017-04-23 with the comment:
Undid revision 775169832 by K.e.coffman (talk)notable as ace

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Confusing

"During his career, he shot down a total of 94 enemy planes in approximately 500 combat missions (18 victories were on the Western Front), of which eight were four engined bombers and seven [were] Il-2 Sturmoviks."
This sentence appears at the end of the 'Career' section. It seems to give the impression that of the '18 victories on the Western Front', 'seven were Il-2 Sturmoviks.'

I am not aware of any 'Il-2 Sturmoviks' flying on the Western Front, much less seven aircraft being shot down.

This sentence needs rewriting, (with references to hand). RASAM (talk) 11:28, 14 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Notability

Does not meet WP:SOLDIER & sig RS coverage not found: link.

No de.wiki article exists. Did not hold a significant command. Successful completion of missions is not part of SOLDIER. Please also see a note at MilHist Talk Archives for background behind the redirect. In summary, per the outcome of the discussion at Notability:People on notability of Knight's Cross recipients: permalink, certain recipients were deemed non notable and WP:SOLDIER has been modified accordingly: diff. The articles of these recipients are being redirected to alphabetical lists. K.e.coffman (talk) 03:28, 13 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Notable due to his status as a Flying ace with a high claimed kills counts. As you can see in List of World War II flying aces - flyers with a much smaller kill count have articles - with the notability being their kill count and nothing else. Being an aerial ace (with a significant count for a particular conflict - 5 would be borderline for WWII, but would confer significance in any other conflict - mid-double digits and up for WWII is clearly significant).Icewhiz (talk) 10:01, 23 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]