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[edit]not sure whether to make this a WP:BIO article, or one about a "field of study", since it really appears to be somewhat of a one-woman enterprise, but probably notable enough for inclusion nevertheless.--dab (𒁳) 10:19, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
The insistence of using the term "matriarchy" even after recognizing that there was never a matriarchate or gynaikokratia on grounds that "arche means beginning" and "matriarchy" should hence be taken to mean "at the beginning the mothers" is pure sophistry, and poor scholarship at that. This terminological smoke-screen does a lot of harm to the bona fide study of egalitarian and/or matrilineal societies, which is perfectly possible within mainstream academia. Because of its self-chosen exile in the "independent scholar" corner, shouting "witch hunt" at the world in general, I must conclude we should cover this topic as falling under WP:FRINGE. --dab (𒁳) 11:14, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
- I appreciate the information you've gathered here, Dieter. I've put too little time into creating stubs for journals, to assist editors with assessing reliability and affinity of sources. However, I believe it is important we document fringe groups too ... neutrally. I've encountered Göttner-Abendroth's work in various places. In several contexts this is very notable work, she provides a theoretical perspective some readers "resonate" with, and would consider it important that such views are addressed. In other cases, documentation like that you've gathered here helps people recognise views that it might be unwise to give undue attention.
- I'll scout for any quality refs I can find online to add to the article. If I stumble across any in real life research I'll add them here also. Thanks again for this article. Alastair Haines (talk) 13:07, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
Life / Citation needed and: definition of matriarchy
[edit]Citation needed: "....but, due to her activism and harsh criticism of her academic work, she quit .." As far as I know this ist not really correct.
Göttner-Abendroth is not the first scholar who defines matriarchy in the sense of at the beginning the mothers. She never mentions that Cäcilia Rentmeister had defined it that way at first (1980).--Fiona Baine (talk) 08:49, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
- We probably need a separate Wiki page on Matriarchal Studies as an academic field, particularly one based on the definitions used by indigenous writers regarding existing matrifocal cultures. The Matriarchy page is relevant to this, but isn't focused on the academic field. It's like the difference between having a page on urban areas and a page on urban studies. --Erstwhile Crew (talk) 24.29.238.26 (talk) 02:38, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
secondary literature and criticism
[edit]... are missing. --Fiona Baine (talk) 08:14, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
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