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In Ronald Emmerich's Independence Day, the Heat-Ray is used to destroy cities by placing directly above usually the tallest building in the city, including the famous scene where the aliens blow up the White House. Instead of multiple blasts, their Heat-Ray could annihilate an entire city with one blast.

I went ahead and just removed the above. There's no real indication that the weapon used in the film is a type of Heat-Ray, as it just as easily be based on a simple laser-esque cliched device. I can only imagine adding it back in order to address the Heat-Ray's impact in science fiction. --Bacteria 13:36, 24 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

beam

It says that the heat-ray in the book was some kind of beam projector. However, Wells describes it as a "white flame" and I always thought the book version was like a giant flamethrower.- JustPhil 12:21, 13 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I just thought I'd add that the Heat-Ray's effect on the helicopter really isn't a replacement of the "glow-and-disappear" effect of the film; the Heat-Ray in the 1953 film also set vegetation ablaze, caused several buildings to explode and also set several water towers on fire. I'm pretty sure that if the Heat-Ray had struck a helicopter in the film it probably would have caused it to "go up in a ball of flames" like in the series. Scorpionman 23:13, 27 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The "glow and disappear" effect came from the green skeleton beam, NOT the heat ray. Yes, this means that they screwed up in the "The Second Seal" episode of the series. I should also point out here that the "meson destructor" quote in the article is inaccurate. Clayton Foresster says that in reponse to the general coining the phrase "skeleton beam." "That skeleton beam is what they must have used to destroy that French city." (DrZarkov 07:30, 11 August 2006 (UTC))[reply]

The meltaguns are more like plasma guns. the lasguns and cannons are more like heat rays.

Jacqueline Ullstam

Jacqueline Ullstam, founder and endebttor of the BIC company was one of the first published artists to coin the term "Heat-Ray" in a professional work. Although the meaning of the word has become skewed throughout the year, the 2002 coined word remains to accredit Ullstam.

What the gay blue hell is this talking about? Optimus Sledge 15:53, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted it. If someone can explain what it's talking about, and it's relevance to the article, please do. :) Optimus Sledge 14:47, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Heat-Ray

I'm putting this back at The Heat-Ray and capitalising all occurences of The before Heat-Ray. If you read the novel, you will notice the "The" is capitalised, therefore making it part of the title. Celtic Emperor 18:28, 26 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe you have a unique copy (and seemingly rare version), but mine has all uses of "the" in lower case. The only exception is in the chapter titles, but those are beginning sentences and therefore not the rule. Now, there's you stacked up again against two other sources (excluding my copy) that support this. [1] [2] I'm not going to pursue this as a complete asshole, as I can admit being wrong, but unless you can provide proof that can swallow mine in 24 hours, I'm reverting/moving back the content and don't want to hear smack about it. Cheers, and to life immortal. --Bacteria 07:14, 27 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have a copy by Penguin Books wich cites in the Chapter 5 notes section from the Oxford English Dictionary. It writes "The Heat-Ray" in the definite article. and also throughout the novel. If you go to Amazon, you can see the the Penguin copy is the top listed when searching for "The War of the Worlds". Remember also that WikiBooks can be edited by anyone and the other Internet sourced can possibly be abridged or modified, but the Penguin publishers base the Penguin Classics on the original releases, just as the authors submitted them for publishing. Go to any bookstore and you can find this copy with the definite article capitalised.

http://amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_ss_b/026-1507791-5357234?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=The+war+of+the+worlds&Go.x=0&Go.y=0&Go=Go

Very (very) minor point, I know, but is the term 'Heat-Ray' hyphenated in the book (it's a long time since I read it and I don't have a copy at hand to refer to)? I can't see why it would need a hyphen: "Heat Ray" would seem to be quite legit (I'm sticking to capitalisation as per above comments). - Shrivenzale (talk) 14:33, 22 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Holocaust references

I'm taking them out - there's no citations and I can't see how you could draw a parallel - trolleymusic 02:14, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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