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Former good article nomineeHeartland rock was a Music good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
November 26, 2009Articles for deletionKept
January 4, 2014Good article nomineeNot listed
Current status: Former good article nominee


Article has PR feel & bias

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This phrase is problematic: "a conviction that rock music has a social or communal purpose beyond just entertainment". It is opinion and elitist, the kind of suspect information you'd receive from an intense fan or profit motivated promoter of the genre. For instance, is the reader to infer that rap, country, opera, or the blues don't have a social or communal purpose beyond entertainment? The words entertainment and conviction reveal a bias and are antithetical to NPV. It would be just as accurate, perhaps even more so, to convey that the genre sells a meme where selected social issues are given superficial attention. Not a lot you can discuss in an average 2:30 pop music song even with the extensive use of repetition. The puffery bias exacerbates the fact that the term is made up. What reliable sources are presented which establish this term as been used by more than a narrow group or in a small period of time? Knowsetfree (talk) 14:40, 17 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I think the problematic phrase was merely meant to describe a characteristic and not imply anything beyond that. Either way it the phrase could be reworded. As you suggest, the whole article is extremely bloated. I think there was an honest attempt add detail to the article which resulted in a search for anything that could be tied to something called "heartland rock" but the result is it comes across as puffery. As it is the article is a complete mess. To fix it would mean shortening it considerably and in the end it comes down to a handful of artists during a brief period that don't necessarily need to be lumped together under one label. Maybe the article should be a redirect to John Cougar Mellencamp. Piriczki (talk) 16:14, 18 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

White Lies

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Big Tv also has a modern HR feel IMO 87.75.115.50 (talk) 08:38, 23 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]