Talk:Health effects of honey

poorly written

I think the part under nutrition where the bible is cited is not really adding much value to the article abouh it's nutritional benefits and could be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.116.89.234 (talk) 00:14, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

This is the worst wikipedia article I have come across yet. All the folklore should be moved to another article. Especially, since this is not medicine. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.170.199.47 (talk) 14:34, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

I agree with the others that this article is very poorly written. The language and tone has to be changed to meet wikipedia quality guidelines.

Besides, I was really hoping to see a section on "health risks". Importantly, there should be the mention of honey potentially containing spores of clostridium botulinum, because of which it should not be given to children below one. - Subh83 (talk | contribs) 22:33, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

References: Must be revised entirely, some of them are unproven alternative medicine books, most of the other are severely out of context — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.157.22.49 (talk) 18:45, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

I just did a big revision, following on the much bigger revision that Alexbrn did - thanks for that - especially for going through the MEDRS compliant literature and building content based on that. There was indeed a lot of off-topic content and much content that was not sourced according to WP:MEDRS. Jytdog (talk) 03:32, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

I don't know how this article looked before, but I would completely agree with removing the unfounded folklore and alternative medicine references. However the page is currently excessively brief. Most of the topics state "there is no good evidence" when, in fact, there may actually be literature for some of these topics. Wikipedia is first and foremost an encyclopedia, and therefore all available information related to the topics at hand should be presented in a fair and non-partial manner. Also, I realize that this page has been recommended for revision as part of the Medicine Portal initiative. To that end I appreciate the work of the previous editors. As a practitioner, I utilize Wikipedia as a source of information, certainly not for treatment advice, and I draw my own conclusions based on all resources available. Maybe I'm an optimist but I believe most users are intelligent enough to draw their own conclusions as well. When I come to Wikipedia and information from various studies on the topic are not mentioned, or all are summarized with a terse blanket statement, then I am forced to do the research myself, and Wikipedia no longer becomes a time-saving tool for me. In summary, as the article stands currently, we could do a better job at researching the various topics and summarizing the available literature.Dryphi (talk) 02:53, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for talking! Wonderful. OK, as per WP:MEDMOS we say things plainly, and we do not go into great detail parsing all the studies. This is really important. And looking at valid sources that comply with [{WP:MEDRS]], there is generally very weak science on health effects of honey, and it is impossible to make recommendations for or against for most things. Wikipedia stands very very strongly with evidence-based medicine - we cannot have a ton of folklore in an article that is called "Health effects of honey". This has absolutely nothing to do with what I personally believe - this is how we do things on Wikipedia. I just turned to look at the Honey article and it is a disaster too. Oy. Jytdog (talk) 03:08, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

As I said I agree with removing the folklore references. Thank you for that. I've been trying to contribute to the Cough section for a week now. I found at least four quality sources that I found interesting and pertinent to the discussion. However my additions keep getting reverted. For instance, if there has been an RCT (level I evidence) on the topic, I would be interested in knowing that.Dryphi (talk) 03:16, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

I just merged what remained here into Honey and cleaned up the health effects section there