Talk:Hawker Hornbill

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Designer

Apparently Camm didn't actually design the Hornbill as he wasn't chief designer at the time - it was W. G. Carter (who later designed the Gloster Meteor). Carter resigned shortly after the Hornbill was completed and was succeeded by Camm. Even Flight got this wrong & printed an apology in a later issue stating that the fighter was designed under the direction of Mr. W. S. Carter (sic), and was completed a few weeks prior to his resignation.

This quote can be found in part one of a two-part article, The Hornbill Enigma by Philip Jarrett in the Aeroplane Monthly September and October 1985 issues.

According to Jarrett, this error has been repeated in a number of publications, along with another about the Hornbill's different radiator configurations.

Ian Dunster 18:34, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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BetacommandBot (talk) 17:59, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Date of first flight

The article has July 1925 which presumably comes from Mason's British fighter since 1912, which I don't have, but in Hawker Aircraft (Putnmam, 1971) the same author gives it as May 1926. I'll check to see if Flight gives a date but note it's articles are from 1926.TSRL (talk) 07:35, 29 April 2014 (UTC)TSRL[reply]

Changed to "around July 1925" in the 1991 edition of Mason's Hawker Aircraft since 1920 (p. 115).Nigel Ish (talk) 19:09, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Radiators

The article states that the Hornbill started off with a single radiator under the fuselage but that this was changed for two radiators under the wings to try to cure engine overheating. Francis K Masons "Hawker Aircraft since 1920" (Putnams ISBN 0 85177 839 9) states that it was the other way around. The aircraft was originally built with two radiators under the wing, in which configuration the engine OVERCOOLED. This was then changed to a single radiator under the fuselage (as per the later Fury and Hurricane) but in this configuration the engine overheated. The same book stresses one of the main reasons for the failure of the Hornbill was that the Condor engine did not perform well at height with power trailing off above 16,000 feet and the Hornbill only having a modest ceiling of 24,000 feet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.173.221.115 (talk) 10:31, 5 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Recent edits

Tidied biblio then realised that I didn't have the sources.... Auto-edded, dupe w/l scanned. Keith-264 (talk) 16:26, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]