Talk:Hashemite

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Who is the "Hussein" mentioned in the last paragraph as having 4 sons? Is he the same as Husain ibn Ali from the previous paragraph? If so, please standardize the spelling. If not, please explain who he is -- he was not mentioned earlier in the article. - 128.220.117.40 17:12, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

It would appear that this is the case. I have altered the article for clarification. - Cybjorg 12:11, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Somaliland

According to some genealogical books and Somali tradition, the Isaaq clan was founded in the 13th or 14th century with the arrival of Sheikh Isaaq Bin Ahmed Bin Mohammed Al Hashimi (Sheikh Isaaq) from Arabia, a descendant of Ali ibn Abi Talib in Maydh.[6][7] He settled in the coastal town of Maydh in modern-day northwestern Somaliland, where he married into the local Magaadle clan.[8]

There are also numerous existing hagiologies in Arabic which describe Sheikh Isaaq's travels, works and overall life in modern Somaliland, as well as his movements in Arabia before his arrival.[9] Besides historical sources, one of the more recent printed biographies of Sheikh Isaaq is the Amjaad of Sheikh Husseen bin Ahmed Darwiish al-Isaaqi as-Soomaali, which was printed in Aden in 1955.[10]

Sheikh Isaaq's tomb is in Maydh, and is the scene of frequent pilgrimages.[9] Sheikh Ishaaq's mawlid (birthday) is also celebrated every Thursday with a public reading of his manaaqib (a collection of glorious deeds).[8] His Siyaara or pilgrimage is performed annually both within Somaliland and in the diaspora particularly in the Middle East among Isaaq expatriates. Rima Berns McGown, Muslims in the diaspora, (University of Toronto Press: 1999), pp. 27–28

I.M. Lewis, A Modern History of the Somali, fourth edition (Oxford: James Currey, 2002), p. 22

Sultan of Sulu

The Sultan of Sulu and Northern Borneo is also a Hashemite rule why is there know mention of this? See http://www.royalsulu.com/orders2.html

Sunni

This is not to be rude, but rather I am curious, being that I myself am not a Muslim; why is the Hashemite family Sunni rather than Shi'a. Don't the Shi'a portion believe that the descendets of The Prophet ought to be the rightful rulers? Please explain.

-- I'm not sure that this is actually true, or at least the explanation provided in this article. I had always thought that Ummayads and Abbasids were both Sunni.

--- The Rashidun, Ummayads and the Abbasids dynasty that came right after that prophets death were sunni, and i want to to add that these dynasty were special because it was made by the people who lived with the ProphetDesertDagger (talk) 22:07, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Morocco

Isn't (wasn't) Morocco ruled by a Hashemite dynasty as well? - idiotoff 22:50, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

no morocco is alaouite —Preceding unsigned comment added by Presente (talk • contribs) 12:35, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

alaouite is a a branch of hashemite dynasty —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.196.171.29 (talk) 04:45, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Jordanien

The name of this Arab dynasty should not be confused with "Hashem", one of the names for God ??? - There is no name of God = Hashem?, I guess, and even it is existed it will be AL-Hashem , no Hashem, it is different Donquimico 00:11, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

HaShem means the name in hebrew and is what the jews call God instead of God, some people say that the name Hashem is because Benu Hashem was a jewish family —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.112.234.6 (talk) 22:48, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Explanation: Hashem in Ivrit (Hebrew) means "The name". It is used because in Jewish law you cannot say God's name in case you blaspheme intentionally or unintentionally.Historygypsy (talk) 14:16, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

BaniHashim is not a Jewish family, its part of the (Quraush) family who are the dynasty of Ishmael the son of Abraham and (Jurhm) tribe (Arabic tribe from Yemen) Hashem comes from the word (hsham) which means (Breaking Bread) because the man who Al-hashmi descended from was breaking bread to prepare a meal called (Tareed) to the Pilgrims so people called him (Hashim) and his dynasty (Bani Hashim) or (Al-Hashmi) which mean the sons of Hashim. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.202.191.47 (talk) 13:27, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

Merge with Banu Hashim?

Hashemite and Banu Hashim: These are the same thing, yes? Nightw 16:17, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

House of Hashim, Extant or Dissolved?

In the box labeled House of Hashim, the House is listed both as extant [not extinct], and dissolved as of 1958.

I think this should be clarfied. 173.210.125.42 (talk) 17:24, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Royal Family of Jordan

Should the Royal Family of Jordan not be a separate, if slightly overlapping, page, in accordance with other "Royal Family of __" wikipedia pages? I'm not familiar with the details of the situation, admittedly. -Kez (talk) 12:54, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

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Hashemite lineage

The "Family tree" is far too small to read. In any case, what evidence do we have that it is accurate prior to Muhammed? While the faithful may want to believe it, and while it may be accurate, as far as I can discover there is no real documented proof at all. The same can be said for a multitude of such lineages in many religions.Historygypsy (talk) 14:20, 16 January 2013 (UTC)