Talk:Harry Saltzman

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Today's edits

The tone of this article has been tagged since February 2011, and no wonder with purpose-prose POV such as, "In a double historic irony, Mankowitz put the two together and was hired to work on the script for what became film history— Doctor No." I've trimmed as much of this as I could to straight forward encyclopedic fact without such POV and editorial commenting, but the issue of unverified content, tagged since October, is still a big issue. --Tenebrae (talk) 20:45, 26 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Technicolor fiasco

I've added further cited details about Saltzman's two years at Technicolor. I'm not sure how to add the following sums or if wikipedia policy allows us to add such information. Regardless, this makes interesting reading.

In 1970 Saltzman buys at least 370,000 Technicolor shares. Tom Mankiewicz claims Technicolor is selling at US$30 a share. Therefore Saltzman spends at least US$11,100,000 (1970 funds). In today's money that's at least US$65,879,072.16 according to http://www.usinflationcalculator.com/ .
In 1972 Saltzman sells 370,000 shares to pay back the Swiss bank loan he got to purchase the stocks in 1970. According to Mankiewicz, Technicolor was selling at US$8 a share. Saltzman gets US$2,960,000 (1972 funds) for those shares. In today's money that's US$16,306,909.09.
Saltzman has lost at least US$8,140,000 (1972 funds). In today's money that's US$49,572,163.07 down the hole.

- Fantr (talk) 20:11, 9 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The inflation calculator site is a problematic reference since there are different mathematical formulas for approximating present-day values. Secondly, even when numbers are agreed upon, they may not be in context — a comic book cost 12 cents in 1963 and anywhere from $3-$4 generally now. Was 12 cents the equivalent of $3-$4? No, because in addition to inflation comics publishedrs now pay royalties, use better printing processes, employ a different distribution system, etc. This is only one example, simply to indicate that it's difficult if not impossible to make absolute comparisons. It also appears to be OR synthesis. --Tenebrae (talk) 21:11, 9 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Citations

Many of the unsourced claims about Saltzman's activities from 1930 to 1960 contradict the sourced details I'm adding. For example, Saltzman didn't marry Jacqueline until either 1958 or 1959 and his oldest child wasn't born until either 1960 or 1961. But the article claims he moved his "family of four" to the UK in the mid-1950s. Instead of requesting proper citations for the questionable unsourced statements added on 06:51, 13 April 2007 which the editor attributes to the Showman documentary, I'll remove them. - Fantr (talk) 20:34, 10 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The uncited Second World War claims now contradict contemporary news articles about Saltzman's American vaudeville activities. - Fantr (talk) 19:14, 30 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The 1940s and 1950s Billboard articles clearly identify Harry Saltzman as a Canadian born entrepreneur who spent time in Paris booking vaudeville talent before the war. They also give an age consistent with someone born in 1915. Further, novelist Judith Krantz confirms that this is indeed the Harry Saltzman who later produced the Bond films. She knew him in the 1950s. What to do? - Fantr (talk) 19:29, 30 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Saltzman's first child was born in 1946. The source inexplicably omits his first wife and his first child entirely, it might not be reliable. The "family of four" reference makes sense once you add this back in. CapnZapp (talk) 00:02, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Life and career (paragraph 11)

Use of the word 'loan' in the following sentence conveys the wrong meaning:

"However by 1972 Saltzman reportedly had to sell off 370,000 shares of Technicolor stock to repay the loan he made to the Union Bank of Switzerland to purchase the stock. "

According to the article, Saltzman borrowed $40 million from UBS - not the other way around. Suggest editing this paragraph, so the sentence reads "the loan he had with", "his debt with/to".92.40.127.3 (talk) 21:42, 8 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This is done: replaced with "to repay his loan from," 92.40.118.64 (talk) 22:17, 9 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Probable Jewish origin

Wikipedia articles on famous film directors, actors or producers usually mention it, if they were Jewish. This is not the case here, but there are hints that suggest a Jewish origin: the first name Herschel, the facts that his father was named Abraham and Saltzman, coming from the territory of Poland, and the fact that he married a woman born Ghinsberg. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.24.11.129 (talk) 23:03, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Birth act

Hello. According to his birth act in Sherbrooke that is on the BAnQ he was born Israel Harris Saltzman on October 29, 1915 here Danielvis08 (talk) 18:51, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

misc

I have corrected several errors (Saltzman had 4 children not 3; his first wife's name was Tanya, not Jacqueline) etc, and added references. Here I reproduce an edit comment that is much better placed here: "I want to learn more about these people to determine if they warrant mention: Raymond Golden, Irving Moskovitz and Arthur Goldstein are limited partners who together contributed $13,000 to get the company at 565 Fifth Avenue going." CapnZapp (talk) 23:57, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]