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"Hard Out Here"! Not "Hard out Here". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iuryschimith (talk • contribs) 01:15, 16 November 2013‎ UTC

Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Music#Capitalization states "The first letter in the first and last words in English song, album and other titles is capitalized. The first letter in the other words is also capitalized, except for short coordinating conjunctions, prepositions, and articles ("short" meaning those with fewer than five letters), as well as the word to in infinitives." See also MOS:CT. –anemone projectors– 10:32, 16 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

And also see "It's Hard out Here for a Pimp", which isn't called "It's Hard Out Here For A Pimp". –anemone projectors– 15:11, 17 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Could somebody please edit the image then, as it has the incorrect title on it? --Walnuts go kapow (talk) 12:13, 27 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The image is what it is. It can't be changed because it's a copyrighted image of a single cover. Whoever designed it chose to capitalise the word "out" on the cover, but the text in the article should use lower case. –anemone projectors– 09:09, 28 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The word out is always capitalised. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hadji87 (talk • contribs) 17:52, 15 December 2013‎ (UTC)[reply]

If you think that, please request a move here following the instructions at WP:RM, giving clear reasons as to why this title should not follow the manual of style. Do not just cut and paste the text to a new title. Thanks. –anemone projectors– 09:20, 16 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Song titles such as "Can't Get You Out of My Head" or "Get Out My Head" might have confused you. However, the former contains a compound preposition "Out of" and so "Out" is capitalised there per MOS:CT, and the latter contains a phrasal verb "Get Out". "Hard out Here" does not contain either of these, just a "preposition containing four letters or fewer", so it is lower case. –anemone projectors– 09:36, 16 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"Out" here is an adverb, not a preposition. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:07, 5 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hard out Here for a Chick

I am missing information about this Ad usum Delphini-version now playing on the radio, at least in Germany. --Wuselig (talk) 14:03, 23 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Move?

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: page moved. Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 17:20, 3 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I obeyed a request to move Hard out Here to Hard Out Here (following Wikipedia's capitalization rules), and someone wants it to be moved back. --Relisted. ^walk victor falk^talk 04:51, 20 May 2014 (UTC)Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:04, 5 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support "Out" isn't a phrasal verb in this instance and "Hard out Here" would be correct under Wikipedia's capitalization rules. This was discussed on the talk page and the article was page protected to prevent the move. Similarly titled articles include: Hot in Herre, It's Hard out Here for a Pimp. --Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 05:26, 5 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support "out here" and "in here" are locutions that should be capitalised consequently. ^walk victor falk^talk 04:50, 20 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom and Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars. SN▲P • SN▲P 19:16, 1 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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