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December 22, 2011Good article nomineeListed

GA Review

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This review is transcluded from Talk:Hard Justice (2005)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: AJona1992 (talk · contribs) 15:49, 18 December 2011 (UTC) and MayhemMario‎ (talk · contribs) 15:49, 18 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from AJona1992
  • File:Tnahardjustice2005.jpg needs a better rational then presented. Look at File:2008JudgmentDay.jpg as an example.
  • For the infobox "date" needs a {{start date}} template.
    Spotless articles don't need a point ;-)
  • This sentence in the lead (second para) I believe is missing a word TNA held a Twenty-Man Gauntlet for the Gold to become number one contender to the NWA World Heavyweight Championship.
  • This sentence in the lead (third para) Jason Clevett of the professional wrestling section of the Canadian Online Explorer felt the event was the "most entertaining pay per view from TNA since January's Final Resolution." Why this statement out of all the other statements/reviews this show got? Seems to be bordering WP:NPOV. If the show received more positive reviews then negative, then you should say "Hard Justice received generally positive reception" or likewise.
    • Its the only statement regrading the overall event. The rest speak of the matches, not the overall event. WP:PW never been one to add whether a event got more positive or negative reviews. I for one feels it is WP:OR on the editors part to make that call. Rather just let the information speak for itself. There is no source to cover said statement.--WillC 22:57, 18 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Chris Candido, who passed away on April 28, 2005" needs to be re-worded per WP:EUPHEMISM
  • Also from the same sentence "... to a blood clot from a surgery he had to fix an injury sustained at TNA's previous PPV event Lockdown on April 24, 2005." Does not make any sense, mostly because of "he had to fix an injury sustained at TNA's ..."
  • This sentence (in Storylines) "The match was hyped" seems a bit WP:OR and WP:NPOV.
  • There are too many sentences that start with "On the [date] episode of Impact!" - needs a variety.
  • On the April 1 episode ofImpact! something is wrong ;-)
  • "using his signature maneuver the Dead Sea Drop" source that verifies that this is his signature move?
    It's common sense to fans not to WP:PCR "provide context to the uniformed reader" this is not WWE Wikipedia, its Wikipedia. Secondly, I didn't know, and I graduated with honors so what are you trying to say, just because you know its true, doesn't make it true.
    Common sense in a way that its been given a special name, not biased towards a fan. Why would it have a significant name if it was not a signature maneuver in that vein of common sense. The move's official wrestling name is a "forward somersault three-quarter facelock jawbreaker". Even some wrestling fans would not know what this means as well as ones unfamiliar with the information. As such has been discussed several times at WP:PW, where it was agreed to just give enough information in order to get the point across, rather than fall in the universe. Wondering whether if something is a signature maneuver or not is deterring off the subject matters. I'd figure good faith would be in this instance.--WillC 09:01, 20 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • FN#7, FN#20 and FN#26 why is SLAM! Sports: Wrestling italicized?
    So fix it, only printed publications are allowed to be in italics. Please use " " to force this.
    Its within the template. They are in italics due to the template and I tried your suggestion, with no change in the area. I went and read the template parameter description. Its states the work is the name of the website, not exactly the publisher. Its set up as such and apparently as is the format of the template it is to be in italics.--WillC 09:01, 20 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Did you try using " ", this code forces it. Best, Jonayo! Selena 4 ever 13:30, 20 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    I tried it twice, it didn't work either time for me.--WillC 22:11, 20 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • FN#11 and FN#12 why is Total Nonstop Action Wrestling italicized?
    Same as above.
    See above--WillC 09:01, 20 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • What makes this a reliable source?
    • Its the retailer selling the dvd of the event. All it covers is the release date, as such with several articles before it, it covers minor easily obtainable information.--WillC 22:57, 18 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    According to WP:RS Amazon.com is NOT a reliable source, please find a different one.
    RS says nothing regrading information obtaining to a releasing of a product that I can find. This wouldn't regard a self-published source or user database source. As with Destination X (2005), Lockdown (2005), Final Resolution (January 2008), the FA Lockdown (2008), etc using of a retailer to source a release date of a DVD seems to be considered passable. I shall look for a replacement but it seems to be agreed this is considered exceptionable.--WillC 09:01, 20 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Not even a FA article can save you here buddy. Please read this discussion on my previous GAR where an experience GAN/FAC reviewer explained why Amazon.com is NOT a RS and should never be used. Best, Jonayo! Selena 4 ever 13:30, 20 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Removed it as I can't find a replacement source at this time.--WillC 22:11, 20 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • FN#27 make space between Prowrestling and About.com
  • Thanks for fixing all concerns will pass article. Congrats, Jonayo! Selena 4 ever 00:34, 22 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]