Talk:Happy Together (song)/GA1

GA Review

Failed, due to nominator's inactivity.

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Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 08:36, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

It is reasonably well written.
a. (prose, spelling, and grammar):

b. (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a. (reference section):

b. (citations to reliable sources):

c. (OR):

d. (copyvio and plagiarism):
It is broad in its coverage.
a. (major aspects):

b. (focused):
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:
It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
a. (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales):

b. (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall:
Pass/fail:

(Criteria marked are unassessed)

This will run over two days! --K. Peake 08:36, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox and lead

[1] is not needed in the infobox when that info is already sourced in the body
Should pop really be included as a genre when two sub-genres of it already are? Also, write these out in prose and remove the refs from here.
The lead is somewhat out of order; before release, you should place the composers, then the recording info.
"b/w "Like the Seasons"," → "backed by "Like the Seasons","
Make the lyrics sentence the one after release, moving commercial reception to following on from this one
The first and only chart-topper part is not sourced directly in the body
"included on their third studio album," → "included on the Turtles' third studio album,"
Lowercase the Magicians per MOS:THEMUSIC
Wikilink acoustic guitar, however the hand claps part is not sourced
"a dozen artists" this exact number needs to be sourced
"and, thinking the song a potential hit, initially rehearsed it" → "and saw the song as a potential hit, initially rehearsing it"
Mention the year they appeared on those two shows
The media usage like covers is not sourced
Remove overly obvious wikilink on United States and place the country after the century
Pipe BMI To Broadcast Music, Inc.
[6][7] are not needed in the lead when that info is already sourced in the body
Those members are not sourced as the ones that fought to copyright the song
Pipe Sirius XM Radio to Sirius XM

Background

Retitle to Background and development
Remove brackets around with Jimmy Woods because you are already talking about co-writing by here
"but it was rejected" → "but the demo was rejected" and also mention there was around a dozen artists
Img looks good!
Remove overly obvious wikilink on California
"almost led the Turtles to" → "almost led to the Turtles"
"some time to listen to submitted" → "some time listening to submitted"
"sent some demos that included" → "sent some demos, including"
"While interviewed by Grammy Awards," → "While interviewed by the Grammy Awards," and can't you add an interviewer name or something?
"said that when he heard it the first time he" → "said when he heard "Happy Together" the first time, he"
"voices were abysmal"." → "voices were abysmal."" per MOS:QUOTE on full sentences
The unawareness is not sourced
"and that other session musicians" → "and other session musicians"
"and praised it as much" → "and he praised it as much"
Quote box looks good!
Italicise Stereogum
"and with Bonner and Gordon's song" → "and, with Bonner and Gordon's song,"

Recording

Remove wikilink on the Turtles for the img
Remove overly obvious wikilinks on New York and California
"wanted us to have it." → "wanted us to have it."" to end the quote properly
"The group rehearsed" → "The band rehearsed"
January 1967 is not mentioned by the source
""Happy Together"'s session was" → "The song's session was"
"Jim Tucker, bassist Chip Douglas and drummer John Barbata" → "Jim Tucker, bassist Douglas, and drummer Barbata"
[22] should solely be at the end of the sentence
"the other three were for the vocals and" → "the next three were for the vocals, and"
Pipe overdubs to Overdubbing
"the basic track (drums, bass and guitars)" → "the basic drums, bass, and guitars track"
""maybe another three hours" → ""Maybe another three hours" per the source
"was basically done"." → "was basically done."" per MOS:QUOTE
"15 takes according to Fred Bronson's book" → "15 takes, according to Bronson's book"
"presumed that they had" → "presumed that the Turtles had"
Quote box looks good!
"probably the most cited is from Chip Douglas." → "Douglas has been the most cited from."
"With only nine months in the group," → "With only nine months as a member,"
"be the middle voices"." → "be the middle voices.""
"John Barbata credited himself for" → "Barbata credited himself for"
Remove pipe on overdubbing
"hear it numerous times. "I just" → "hear it numerous times: "I just"
"be a No.1 record"." → "be a No.1 record.""
"in some portions while other segments" → "in some portions, while other segments"
"referring to the production methods" → "This referred to the production methods" starting as a new sentence, so you avoid a run-on

Composition

Retitle to Composition and lyrics
Remove pipe on F♯ major
Wikilink electric guitar
[13] should be solely at the end of the sentence
"the chorus begins (consisting of" → "the chorus begins. It consists of" to avoid a run-on, like earlier
"vocals are backed by" → "vocals, backed by"
"Many listeners (like Langerholc[39])" → "Many listeners, including Langerholc,[39]"
"with Perone stating that the relationship" → "with Perone stating the relationship"
Add the release year of "Mirage"
"observed that is the listener's option" → "observed that it is the listener's option"

Release and commercial performance

Img looks good!
Why is January 1967 listed as the release date when Uncut points to February?
"May 14, 1967, [50]and again," → "May 14, 1967,[50] and again,"
"in March that consisted of" → "in March, consisting of" and specify the year of 1967 or 1968
Remove overly obvious wikilink on Los Angeles
"on March 25, overtaking The Beatles'" → "on March 25, 1967, overtaking the Beatles'" per MOS:THEMUSIC
Some of the stats mentioned in the lead still need to be written out here
"for three weeks before being knocked out of the #1 position" → "for three weeks, before being knocked out of this position"
"stayed on the Billboard Hot 100 charts" → "stayed on the US Billboard Hot 100 charts"
"became a Top 10 hit" → "became a top-10 hit"
Remove excess space for [47] [54]
Decapitalise gold and add the full name of RIAA, also mention the year and that this was in the United States

Reception and accolades

"received primarily good reviews" → "was met with primarily good reviews"
Add a writer or staff of for Billboard magazine, plus remove the duplicate pipe on the last word
"praised Joe Wissert's production." → "praised Wissert's production."
"they write that it is a" → "they write that the song is a"
Refs should be invoked at the end of any sentences using direct quotes
"a hit for the group." → "a hit for the band."
"stating that the group are" → "with the staff stating that the Turtles are"
"writes that the group" → "writes that the band"
"starts off tamely which escalates into a" → "starts off tamely, escalating into a"
"sort of sound."" → "sort of sound"." per MOS:QUOTE
"All in all, he gave" → "All in all, Jones gave" and specify out of how many stars
Remove "the" before Denise Sullivan and add the correct ref at the end of the sentence
Remove or replace The Daily Guru per WP:SELFPUB
"reviewers and authors labeled it" → "reviewers and authors labeled "Happy Together""
The Sullivan ref is not invoked at the end of the sentence
"for Stereogum, praised it for" → "for Stereogum, praised the song for"
Remove wikilink on the Beatles
"innovations to "put them" → "innovations for "putting them" per the source
"in their career." → "in their career"." to end the quote
"in the United States of" → "in the US of" per MOS:US
[6] should solely be invoked at the end of the sentence
Add the release years of the two songs
"by Simon and Garfunkel." → "by Simon & Garfunkel." with the wikilink
"it was inducted into" → "the song was inducted into"

Copyright lawsuits

Pipe Sirius XM Radio to Sirius XM
"the group sought to establish" → "the band sought to establish"
"in the hopes of earning royalties from Sirius XM; as they did not write" → "The Turtles hoped to earn royalties from Sirius XM; due to not having written"
There should not be an additional full-stop after Inc.
The first para needs the appropriate ref(s) invoked
"the Court ruled that" → "the court ruled that"
"and that Flo & Eddie could not" → "and Flo & Eddie could not"
"which originally featured the lyric" → "which originally featured the line"
"However, the lyric was changed" → "However, this was changed"
Wikilink pre-chorus per MOS:LINK2SECT

Usage in the movie Adaptation

Since the lead mentions more media usage, retitle to Usage in media and add others
"of Kaylan's career."" → "of Kaylan's career"."
Why is there only a comma after Howard Kaylan for the quote?

Personnel

Use {{spaced ndash}} so there is the right space between credits and personnel

Charts

Weekly charts

See MOS:TABLECAPTION
Add a citation for New Zealand
VG-Lista → VG-lista with the wikilink
The UK position is not displayed as 12
Add Media Control in brackets for the West German entry
The US entries do not need the dots

Year-end charts

See MOS:TABLECAPTION
Add RPM Top Singles for Canada
U.S. Billboard Hot 100 → US Billboard Hot 100
U.S. Cash Box → US Cash Box Top 100

All-time charts

See MOS:TABLECAPTION
U.S. Billboard Hot 100 → US Billboard Hot 100

Certifications

See MOS:TABLECAPTION

Notes

on April or May 1966, but Wadhams wrote that the band found the demo on → in April or May 1966, but Wadhams wrote that the band found the demo in
Wikilink as oboes per WP:PIPE

References

Copyvio score looks too high at 41.2%; cut down quoting from MixOnline to fix this
Archive all of these by using the tool
You need to add the via parameter to the ones that are citing from sites like Google Books
Ref 1 is not completely filled in
Wikilink Concordia University on ref 2
Wikilink Farrar, Straus and Giroux on ref 3
Pipe McFarland to McFarland & Company on ref 4
Wikilink Hong Kong University Press on ref 5
Pipe BMI to Broadcast Music, Inc. on ref 6
GRAMMY.com → Grammy on ref 7, piping to Grammy Awards and citing as publisher instead
Cite AllMusic as publisher instead on refs 8, 9, 34, 45 and 47, wikilinking on the first instance and fixing the complete italicization of ref 9
Remove or replace refs 10, 48, 49, 50, 53, 62 and 63 per WP:RSYT on self-published accounts
Remove or replace ref 11 per WP:SELFPUB
www.wearehappytogether.com → We Are Happy Together on ref 12
Should Berklee Press be piped to Berklee College of Music on ref 13?
www.rebeatmag.com → Rebeat and fix MOS:QWQ issues on ref 14
Wikilink TwoMorrows Publishing on ref 15
Wikilink Harmony Books on ref 16
Pipe Salem Press to Grey House Publishing on ref 17
Pipe Backbeat Books to Rowman & Littlefield on ref 20
For refs 21, 27, 31, 35 and 46 UNCUT → Uncut and pipe to Uncut (magazine) on the first instance, plus link to the pages for any citing past the first one and fix duplicate instances and MOS:QWQ issues
Fix MOS:QWQ issues with ref 22
Wikilink Internet Archive on ref 23
Fix MOS:QWQ issues with ref 24, cite YouTube in the via parameter and cite The Recording Academy as publisher with the wikilink
www.jerryreuss.com → Jerry Reuss on ref 25, if you can justify keeping this since what makes it reliable exactly?
Remove the author from ref 26 and www.songfacts.com → Songfacts, citing as publisher with the wikilink
Fix MOS:QWQ issues and wikilink Stereogum for ref 28
Ref 30 is a duplicate of ref 29
Pipe Goldmine Magazine: Record Collector & Music Memorabilia to Goldmine (magazine) on ref 36
Fix MOS:QWQ issues and cite Musicnotes.com as publisher instead for ref 37
Remove or replace ref 39 per WP:SELFPUB
Cite Songbpm.com as publisher instead on ref 40
Cite Classic FM as publisher instead and pipe to Classic FM (UK) on ref 43
Pipe ABC-CLIO to ABC-Clio on ref 44
Fix MOS:QWQ issues with ref 51, cite YouTube in the via parameter and cite The Ed Sullivan Show as work with the wikilink
Ed Sullivan Show → The Ed Sullivan Show on ref 52
Add work/website for ref 54
Remove the author and cite bac-lac.gc.ca as publisher instead on refs 56 and 58, piping to Library and Archives Canada on the first instance
Fix the errors for refs 59, 60 and 61, piping Nielsen Business Media, Inc to Nielsen Holdings
Fix MOS:QWQ issues with ref 64 and cite RIAA as publisher with pipe to Recording Industry Association of America
Pipe Contemporary Books to McGraw Hill Education on ref 70
Remove or replace ref 71 per WP:SELFPUB
Wikilink Andrews McMeel Publishing on ref 73
Fix MOS:CAPS issues and wikilink Associated Press for ref 75
Remove or replace ref 76 per WP:USERG
Remove pipe on Billboard for ref 77
Cite VG-lista 2021 as publisher instead and pipe to VG-lista on ref 83
Ref 85's citation is not fully filled in
I am not sure about the reliability of ref 88; can you justify it?
WP:OVERLINK of Cash Box on refs 91 and 94; plus fix MOS:CAPS issues with the last one
WP:OVERLINK of RPM on ref 92
Musicoutfitters.com → Music Outfitters on ref 93

External links

Good

Final comments and verdict

On hold until all of the issues are fixed; the references look the messiest but this should be fixed in due time! --K. Peake 12:10, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

✗ Fail after nearly a month with almost no action from the nominator on this article. --K. Peake 09:53, 15 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.