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English Heritage. "Worcestershire and Worcester City HER: Motte and Bailey at Homme (Ham) Castle, Clifton-on-Teme (HER Reference: WSM00284)". Heritage Gateway. {{cite web}}: External link in |publisher= (help)

The English Heritage source above includes a text copied from

William Page; J.W. Willis-Bund (1924). The Victoria history of the county of Worcester. Vol. 4. pp. 426–7.

Page died in 1934 and Willis-Bund in 1928. As it seems that the author of the paragraph is anonymous, So under the UK copyright legislation which is for a copyright period that extends to 70 years after the death of the author (Fact sheet P-01: UK Copyright Law), and that English Heritage copied the text without attrition I think that it is safe to assume that the copy right on this text has expired, and that copying this text verbatim and then changing it is not a breach of copyright. If you read this and do not agree with my assumption, then please delete the text and then let me know so that we can discuss it further. -- PBS (talk) 16:17, 16 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

PBS, from a UK perspective, that sounds sensible; anything written by Page or Willis-Bund is going to be out of copyright. For the Wiki, it would also need to be out of copyright in the US as well; that's a bit trickier, as you'll need to check some of the formalities. I think the chart here covers it; it may still be in copyright in the US according to that chart, depending on what the publishers did. Hchc2009 (talk) 16:50, 16 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I have had a look at the chart, and I am not sure. I'll leave it to others to decide. -- PBS (talk) 17:04, 17 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Don't blame you - US law is notoriously awkward in this area! Hchc2009 (talk) 17:10, 17 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]