Talk:Half-time (music)

"In music, half time is a type of feel"

I don't particularly like this wording. I think a better way of describing half time would be by comparison to common time, such as: "In music, half time is a variation of common time in which the time interval between backbeats is doubled" or something like that. I will wait for discussion to edit the article. Deep treble 14:40, 16 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Removed: Amit

I removed the following example since the citation given is Amit's website, there is no internal link to Amit, and thus no proof of notability:

Amit, a drum and bass producer<ref>[http://ethnotechno.com/amit_neverending.php Amit :: Never Ending]</ref>

Hyacinth (talk) 00:51, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Huh?

This article is a prime example of why most rock musicians shouldn't be allowed near theory-related articles on Wikipedia. Nothing in here explains why it's different from cut-time, and it's full of words like "feel" and "groove". I have a Graduate-level training in music theory and none of this made any sense to me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.118.70.28 (talk) 23:39, 1 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not too surprised, I must say. The shuffle examples are great, whilst the "half time rock pattern" examples are abysmal. The latter could just be noted down as a simple 4/4 with quarter notes transformed to eighth notes. Nothing "half time" in there. However the triplet one is great, which actually makes the beat sound like a slow 2/4 with the hi-hat playing sextuplets per beat. -andy 217.50.57.46 (talk) 04:48, 15 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Lead

Even as a musician who already knows what half-time means, I can only barely work out what the current opening is trying to say.

In popular music, half-time is a type of meter and tempo that alters the rhythmic feel by essentially doubling the tempo resolution or metric division/level in comparison to common-time. Thus ⁴
₄ approximates ⁸
₈. It is not to be confused with alla breve or odd time.

I can just about figure out what "doubling the tempo resolution" is meant to mean, but as far as I can see this article (and copies of it) is the place it's ever been used. "Tempo resolution" mostly seems to be used as a technical term by users of notation software.

How does it differ from alla breve? We aren't told, just that it isn't to be confused with it. Odd time is something entirely different so I don't know why it's even mentioned.

I'll have a think about how best to express this in plain English and avoid WP:JARGON. Any suggestions? TSP (talk) 13:13, 10 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

"Half-time" sub-topic, first illustration doesn't make sense

The text doesn't seem to go with the illustration.

The snare is on beat 3 of both measures, but it doesn't "move" there. The notation is written with hi-hat, also mentioned in the text, but the "hi-hat" in the audio sounds like a ride cymbal. Both bars sound the same and are played the same on drums. Deuibh (talk) 17:22, 18 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Disambiguation?

In concert band, I've seen half time (no hyphen) used to mark a section that's literally half the tempo of the previous section. The conductor conducts beats half as fast, and the music very obviously sounds completely different. I think I've also seen double time exactly once before, marking a section that's whose tempo is literally double the previous section. None of this had anything to do with jazz or drumming.

Does this usage sound familiar to anyone else? Zowayix001 (talk) 06:57, 22 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]