Talk:Hadj Ahmed Chabane

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B class review

I have made a number of minor edits, but please review my questions below. Thanks. Djmaschek (talk) 03:35, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Introduction: This needs to be expanded by adding 2 or 3 sentences. Briefly describe what this person did (defeated Moroccans, made Tunis a vassal) and what caused him to be killed (internal revolt).
Battle of Moulouya (1692) section: "The campaign proved successful resulting in the defeat of the Moroccan king, Ismael Ben Cherif and subsequently prompting further incursions from him." (This is confusing. If the Moroccans were defeated, then why would this "prompt", or cause, further incursions? Do you mean to say that "in spite of the defeat, the Moroccans continued to make incursions"?)
Death section: "...who complained of being sacrificed for the sake of the favorite. The latter had just been expelled by the people of Tunis..." (Who is the favorite?)
Death section: "Mehemed, returning from Chios, had won over the garrison of Constantine with gifts, which rallied to his cause." (Who is Mehemed? Is Mehemed the favorite? Who succeeded Chabane as Bey?)

Editors cannot assess their own articles as B class for the military history project. See "Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Requests": "Editors can self-assess articles against the five B-class criteria^(FAQ) up to and including C-Class. If you have made significant improvements to an article against one or more of B-class criteria and would like an outside opinion on a new rating for it, please feel free to list it below..." In this case, there are questions outstanding from an uninvolved experienced user who is trying to help move the article to B class. These cannot be ignored and the article assessed by the user contrary to the rule on the assessment page. I have rolled back the B class assessment by the editor/author. Donner60 (talk) 07:37, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Donner60@ hope you're doing fine. I'm glad more people are writing about the history of the Regency in Wikipedia, regarding this article, i'm sure more would be added regarding Hadji Chabane. Nourerrahmane (talk) 00:36, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

B class re-review

The author added sentences to the introduction and also identified "Medhemed" as Mohamed Bey El Mouradi as requested. Djmaschek (talk) 21:03, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Djmaschek Although i'm not a main contributor to this article, i wanted to thank you for this rating, as this will certainly encourage more people to write about the history of north africa and the corsair regency of Algiers in particular, which covers an important early modern period in mediterranean history. Nourerrahmane (talk) 23:11, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

However, the addition to the introduction was this: "he vassaled Tunis by attcking them in 1694 he also captured the Moulouya River in 1692. He was killed by the Janissaries of Constantine." I can see one misspelling (attcking) and two sentences starting with a lower-case letter. I assume that the author is trying to edit using a cell phone, so I will rewrite this.
Battle of Moulouya (1692) section: The following phrase is changed, "and subsequently prompting further incursions from him". For an explanation, see my comments above.
Introduction: "He was killed by the Janissaries of Constantine." The text of the Death section does not suggest this at all. Instead, it says the Eastern army overthrew and killed him. I re-edited the introduction.
Death section. It still does not say who is "the favorite". I made no edit on this.
I am giving this article a B class assessment. The article is very interesting, and I want to encourage the author to write more about the history of North Africa. The misspellings, missing punctuation, and missing capitalizations can be easily corrected. But there were places where it was difficult for a reader to understand what happened. Please note that the introduction is a summary of the main part of the article; it does not need to be cited, as long as its summarized (and cited) information can be found in the main part of the article.