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I have corrected this edit to include the proper citation to the study, but it is not a good source for this assertion: it is a primary source, one study on a very small sample, and should be replaced by a secondary source review. I may be able to locate one, and will search when I have time. See WP:V, WP:MEDRS, WP:RECENTISM and Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2008-06-30/Dispatches; note that when you click on the PMID links on the other sources in this article, a "Review" tab pops up at PubMed, as they are review articles, not primary sources. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 19:11, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In fact, I removed the new text and the primary source, since the preceding sentence, sourced to a secondary source review, already addressed the matter. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 20:19, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Vs. Medication

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... to the extent that it is a more effective means of treating Tourette syndrome (TS) than medication.[citation needed]

I'm not aware of any peer-reviewed, secondary source which supports this text. Please provide one. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:37, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

... which is higher than the usual 50% reduction noted in pharmacological studies.[unreliable medical source?][1]

This is an incorrect use of a (very old) primary study; please provide a peer-reviewed secondary study which makes this conclusion. I'm not aware of one. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:47, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, gave a better one now, hope you agree —Preceding unsigned comment added by Valethar (talkcontribs) 09:57, 24 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please read WP:SYN, WP:OR and WP:MEDRS. The source supplied is not a reliable source for a medical statement, to my knowledge there are no peer-reviewed secondary sources that support this text, and the way the clauses were strung together here is synthesis and original research.[1] Tracy Marsh's popular culture book on Tourette's is not a peer-reviewed medical source, and can't be used to cite a medical fact on Wikipedia. Unless there is a reliable source that draws these conclusions about HRT in relation to medication, the text should be deleted; to my knowledge, there are no reviews that support this text as written, which is synthesis. Please don't remove citation tags from uncited text. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 13:55, 24 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Right, I see what you mean, I'll find something that states these two facts of its own accord later, you can delete the synthesis in the mean time if you want because I might be a few days, I'm doing an essay at the moment.Valethar (talk) 13:54, 24 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  1. ^ Cite error: The named reference Azrin2 was invoked but never defined (see the help page).