Talk:HR 7955

Identification/Name

"Upsilon¹ Cephei" may be a specious name. See these notes from a version of the Bright Star Catalogue, which say, "Labelled Upsilon Cep in Burritt's Atlas, not confirmed elsewhere. It is not the double star described by Allen as Castula, Upsilon1,2 Cep." I don't know who Allen is, but Burritt's Atlas is Atlas, Designed to Illustrate the Geography of the Heavens... by Elijah H. Burritt. υ appears on the cloth by the king's right arm on this page.

An entire paper, [1], was written on the pair, referring to it as HR 7955. It even says that the stars do not have a Bayer designation (although the author appears not to be completely familiar with the history of those designations).

Now compare pt:Upsilon Cephei, which says that HD 198084 (=HR 7955) is Upsilon Cephei and Castula, contradicting the Bright Star Catalogue. Perhaps the star on the cloth in Burritt isn't even HR 7955? I think that this article, as it is written now ([2]), should be located at HR 7955 (since that's what the data is for, and the name appears to be unambiguous). However, the υ confusion remains. Ardric47 (talk) 14:49, 18 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I've moved the page. StringTheory11 (t • c) 18:30, 18 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I see that you're the original author. Do you remember where you saw Upsilon? Ardric47 (talk) 23:23, 18 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

To be honest, I saw it on List of stars in Cepheus, and being the newbie editor I was back then, I decided to create it at this title. I have no idea where the original author of that page found it. If nobody can find a source, it would be best to remove it from that page as well. StringTheory11 (t • c) 23:35, 18 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I've been looking into this more today. The above mention of "Allen" is actually the reference that is given in List of stars in Cepheus: [3] near the end. There it says, "υ1 and υ2, 5th‑magnitude stars, are given by Bayer, under the title Castula, as from Nonius, equivalent to Ταινία, the Front of the Garment, which they mark." Unless I missed something, Bayer gives none of that information (see [4] image 19 [p. D^r]). My investigation may continue... Ardric47 (talk) 19:01, 1 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It is Allen's mistake – Bayer gives this information for upsilon Cassiopeiae (see Table 10 using the above link). Szczureq (talk) 11:03, 14 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]