Talk:HMS Defence (1861)/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Skinny87 (talk) 09:20, 10 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

GA review (see here for criteria)

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
'She became guard ship on the Shannon when she recommissioned' - S would this be a second recommissioning, presumably after being de-commissioned for the '72-'74 refit?
Does that need to be specified?
Probably wouldn't hurt to clarify.
How does it read now?

'Both breech-loading guns were new designs from Armstrong and much was hoped for them' - Not entirely sure of this, but 'from them' or 'of them' sounds more grammatically correct to me.
Agreed

As you did for the Valiant, can we have a footnote on the usage of Armoured frigate/ironclad?
Done
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
Second paragraph of the first section on Design and Description is uncited.
Cited.

Do we know why she was re-rigged as a barque for a short period? Was this usual for ironclads?
I have no idea, probably to experiment with different rigs to see what worked best for such a large ship.
That's fine.

And any idea why the original armament was reduced?
When, 1867? The 7 and 8-inch muzzle-loaders were heavier than her original guns.
Adding that would be great.
Done.

When were the 110-pound guns taken off of the Defence?
When she refit in '67.

Why were the ends of the ship left entirely unprotected? This seems like a major design flaw after all.
Explained.

'Defence damaged her propeller and rudder when she was nearly blown ashore herself in March 1872.' - Was this due to heavy winds?
They actual struck the bottom in the trough of one wave, but I couldn't figure out how to explain that easily.
What you've said above makes sense, so I'd add that.
How does it read now?--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 15:54, 10 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects): b (focused):
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:
It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
The HMS Defence (1868) picture is currently breaking the section breaks between Armament and Armour. Suggest moving to the right-hand side.
Agreed.
Overall:
Pass/Fail:

Interesting article. A few things to look at, and it can pass. Skinny87 (talk) 09:20, 10 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the review.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 13:47, 10 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, points added above. Skinny87 (talk) 14:35, 10 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good now, so I'll pass. Skinny87 (talk) 16:02, 10 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]