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Reviewer: Ian Rose (talk · contribs) 08:23, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
Be interesting to review a ship article nominated by someone other than Parsecboy or Sturmvogel, so here I am. ;-) Just have one other GAN to get to beforehand... Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 08:23, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
Toolbox check -- No dab or EL issues.
Prose/coverage
- General point, countries and continents don't generally need to be linked (e.g. Africa isn't really necessary) unless it's an obsolete political form (e.g. Italy makes sense).
- Delinked as suggested.
- She assisted HMS Eskimo removing wounded when she was attacked and hit by the Luftwaffe on 15 July. -- I'm unsure just which ship was attacked and hit here...
- Clarified.
- The ship broke in two and her bow sank quickly, followed by her stern a little later, at 15:29. -- Just to clarify, was it her bow or her stern that sank at 15:29?
- The source doesn't say specifically. Freivogel (p.67) says Brod se slomio na dva dijela, pramac je relativno brzo potonuo, a krma malo poslije. Kao mjesto potonuća navodi se 44°30′ N i 14°50′ E, a vrijeme potonuća 15 sati i 29 minuta. (The ship broke in two, the bow sank relatively quickly, and the stern a while later. Sinking site is indicated as 44°30′ N and 14°50′ E, with the time of the sinking as 15:29.) I assume that the time applies to the stern for the following reason: Since the ships were moving at a speed of 20kts after setting sail at 15:00, they could have covered up to 18km of sea by 15:29. The part of the sea off Pag closest to Karlobag (the primary target and the area from which one would sail around the Škrda islet to reach Ist going between Olib and Planik islands as indicated by the sources, is less than 5km away from the place of sinking. Since the ships would have covered the length in far less than 29 minutes, I can only assume that the stern sank at 15:29. The assumption is further reinforced by this account of the mining, indicating that the ships departed to Ist at 15:00 and that Aldenham struck the mine five minutes later. (At 20kts, this is just about right for a 5km distance.) I did not specify the five minutes since I'm not entirely sure whether the BBC project is an acceptably reliable source or not. Any thoughts?--Tomobe03 (talk) 18:11, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
- Yeah, based on the above I think just leave it how you've written it. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 14:18, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
- The source doesn't say specifically. Freivogel (p.67) says Brod se slomio na dva dijela, pramac je relativno brzo potonuo, a krma malo poslije. Kao mjesto potonuća navodi se 44°30′ N i 14°50′ E, a vrijeme potonuća 15 sati i 29 minuta. (The ship broke in two, the bow sank relatively quickly, and the stern a while later. Sinking site is indicated as 44°30′ N and 14°50′ E, with the time of the sinking as 15:29.) I assume that the time applies to the stern for the following reason: Since the ships were moving at a speed of 20kts after setting sail at 15:00, they could have covered up to 18km of sea by 15:29. The part of the sea off Pag closest to Karlobag (the primary target and the area from which one would sail around the Škrda islet to reach Ist going between Olib and Planik islands as indicated by the sources, is less than 5km away from the place of sinking. Since the ships would have covered the length in far less than 29 minutes, I can only assume that the stern sank at 15:29. The assumption is further reinforced by this account of the mining, indicating that the ships departed to Ist at 15:00 and that Aldenham struck the mine five minutes later. (At 20kts, this is just about right for a 5km distance.) I did not specify the five minutes since I'm not entirely sure whether the BBC project is an acceptably reliable source or not. Any thoughts?--Tomobe03 (talk) 18:11, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
Structure/images -- Look fine.
Referencing -- Still to review at this point... Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 17:32, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
- Refs look okay. Passing as GA. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 14:18, 28 June 2013 (UTC)