Talk:HMS Agamemnon (1781)

MOS/Copyedit

I gave this a bit more time than I intended, once I realized she was one of Nelson's ships (I pestered Benea to work on his article this year, and am overdue myself in copyediting it). A few minor comments:

1. What is the purpose of [sic] in the Later career section? Is it a remnant from a quotation previously included there?
2. The Pocock image is beautiful. The Copenhagen diagram and the Maldonado map are a bit difficult to interpret; would it be possible to highlight the appropriate location on those, either via a text description or with a locator dot?
3. A few of the wikilinks need disambiguating: Maldonado, Samuel Hood, and Hyde Parker.

The reliability of the (few) online sources you've used would be questioned at FAC, but that's not typically an issue at GAC. Altogether, this is a fine, well written article, and I'm happy you're taking it to GAC, where it should do very well. Maralia (talk) 20:32, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

I have fixed the dablinks you indicated. As to the [sic] - I suspect this may be because the Battle of San Domingo took place off Santo Domingo. I agree that it is unnecessary, and shall remove it forthwith. DuncanHill (talk) 20:48, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Yes someone added the [sic] and I assumed for that reason. As for 2. on your list, I was actually thinking about doing that for the River Plate map earlier today, but didn't in the end as I thought it would make things less clear, given that there are text labels on the image already... Martocticvs (talk) 22:57, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

I've replaced that map with one showing where Gorriti Island is in relation to Maldonado - though it's not very pretty at thumb resolution. Perhaps wiping the text off one of them and using the dots as you suggest would be a better approach. Martocticvs (talk) 23:37, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

I think either Maldonado map would be fine without a dot as long as there's a little textual help in the caption—"Mouth of the River Plate, showing the location of Maldonado and Gorriti Island (far right)". It's nice that the new map shows Gorriti, but country labels (like the old map) would be helpful, too.

The Battle of Copenhagen map, on the other hand, is really hard to read even at full resolution; a dot might be the best solution there. Maralia (talk) 05:31, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

That sounds like a good idea for the Copenhagen map - I don't actually know how to do that though! I sort of agree about the previous map image (country labels), yet at the same time I don't, as both Argentina and Uruguay would be anachronistic; Argentina only gained independence from Spain in 1810, and at that time would have been on both sides of the River Plate, as Uruguay didn't come into existence until the 1820s sometime. Martocticvs (talk) 22:56, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

agammenon ship 1781

Considero en el el artículo el buque de guerra británico HMS Agammenon, se omite referir que la presencia de dicho barco en costas de Maldonado - Uruguay, se debe a las denominadas Invasiones Inglesas del Río de la Plata (1806-1809). Primera derrota de la Gran Bretaña por fuerzas sudamericanas. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.2.45.106 (talk) 18:12, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Well the region was still under Spanish colonial rule at that time, but yes Agamemnon was indeed part of that operation (made irrelevant anyway by France's invasion of Spain, bringing Spain into the Alliance). I have some information on this and will add it when I get a chance. Martocticvs (talk) 22:18, 15 May 2009 (UTC)