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Thanks @TheLoyalOrder: for creating the article. Also thank to @Radiogaga1984:, @Serial Number 54129:, @Alexeyevitch:, @Panamitsu: and @Orangesclub: for your work on the article. This will be invaluable to documenting NZ history on Wikipedia. Andykatib (talk) 02:28, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Neutrality

@Kiwiz1338 what do you think breaks WP:NPOV? I will fix if you can outline. I will add some more stuff on pro-bill views in the mean time. TheLoyalOrder (talk) 03:37, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. mainly the history of principles and how they have been defined over the years. How Seymour and others don't agree it's a partnership. Kiwiz1338 (talk) 03:42, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@TheLoyalOrder Kiwiz1338 (talk) 03:42, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

are you happy with the neutrality of the lede @Kiwiz1338 TheLoyalOrder (talk) 04:16, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes thank you Kiwiz1338 (talk) 04:17, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox

I removed the infobox because 'infobox civil conflict' is not appropriate here and made it look like a battle took place or something listing sides and parties and other superfluous details.

As far as I am aware no one was injured and no serious acts of vandalism took place, classifying this as a conflict fails WP:V and WP:NPOV. Traumnovelle (talk) 05:09, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Most protests use this template. I don't think you should remove it just because of the name of the template.

From the template description:

A civil conflict infobox may be used to summarize information about a particular civil conflict (for example, protest, strike, clash with police) in a standard manner. This template is designed for non-military conflicts, so please do not use on the entry of military conflict

I don't think civil conflict implies violence all the time, i mean School strike for climate uses the template which is mostly school children TheLoyalOrder (talk) 05:59, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Civil conflict. Regardless barring that the infobox has other issues. It portrays that there are two parties for a start, when in reality there are people who protested, and everyone else. It also has unsourced BLP information describing certain people as 'key figures'. People naturally look towards an infobox when it is there and this one makes it look like an actual conflict has occurred instead of a protest. Traumnovelle (talk) 06:05, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'll add some sources to the key figures. It seems like you have a problem with how this template is wildly used, see Category:2024 protests like most of these use this template. TheLoyalOrder (talk) 06:49, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. Most protest-related articles of this size would have them. Alexeyevitch^(talk) 08:55, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]