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Talk:Gururaj Ananda Yogi

Hello! This page is not blank anymore!

Yeap, now it's not empty :). There were concerns about the notability of persons that have something to do with Category:Meditation for Spiritual Unfoldment. Well, it is the larger school of meditation in the UK right now, and it concerns some thousands people worldwide. There are also other reasons, if this article family is given enough time and a chance to grow, then I believe the notability and (hopefully the interest!) will be more apparent :)

Thanks!

MarekTT 12:20, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Notice Removed

The notice of notability is removed, since the person concerned founded an organization that concerns thousands of people, among other reasons... hopefully more will be added later —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 195.14.157.34 (talk) 13:20, 31 December 2006 (UTC).[reply]

Regarding this article's Notability

Hello! So far the only notability regarding these persons (Jasmini Ananda, Rajesh Ananda, Gururaj Ananda Yogi) is that they founded / leading FISU (Foundation for International Spiritual Unfoldment). These people, organization and their functions concern a certain thousand people, so that's why they are considered notable. They are also responsible for authoring books and other publications, but this list is being compiled and will be added. Same goes with news / media clippings. Please note that these articles are rather young and content is being added gradually, as soon as the certain community of contributors are mobilized.

Thanks and Happy New Year 2007!

MarekTT 15:31, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. This page exists in another language: http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gururaj_Ananda_Yogi and so it will be adopted in english.194.154.149.198 14:15, 2 January 2007 (UTC)194.154.149.198 14:17, 2 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks friend! I should have made this research before starting the article in English.

MarekTT 16:11, 2 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The "big" additions

Happy new year to all; hope you are not ill like myself. This man: Rajesh Ananda contacted me with a load of information regarding Gururaj Ananda Yogi. As most as my illness allows me I am adding in a slow pace some of that content little at a time. For this addition, all contributions are welcomed for some tasks: There are certain "sirs", societies, universities, television / radio stations mentioned from many parts of the world; anyone that has access to these domains and can get more details, then is welcomed to do.

Oh, and standardization, making wikipedia links, adding more content etc... anyone feels like to, sure thing. I will be back on the saddle when I 'm feeling a little better.

If events and media references continue to grow, then we can see whether we need the whole bulk of it occupying the article, or simply focus on actual more useful and interesting content.

Thanks, have a good one,

MarekTT 20:55, 5 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Request for contribution: Citing sources and media references.

Greetings. This article has been tagged that is does not cite certain of its sources / media references. Some references refer at specific organizations and media outlets. So, if anyone has access to the news archive of these organizations and may help, parallel to the effort being done now, you are most welcomed to do so. MarekTT 10:18, 26 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Join the Discussion about this article's continuation

Here: Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Meditation_for_Spiritual_Unfoldment

Cheers, MarekTT 16:01, 27 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Moving on - what this article needs

Hi. Since a related discussion for deletion was closed, I call this a "new day", so anyone that wants to help to expand / improve this article here some things that it needs:

You may have noticed the template that states that "this article does not cite its sources". Well, most of the mentions under "media interviews", "symposia" etc are pre-internet and unfortunately not much online stuff exist to cross reference; the only way for someone to cross reference is to physically go to these organizations / tv and radio channel and dig in their archives. One way to assist citing the references is by searching (in any way such as libraries, articles from electronic newspapers, or online databases / resources). For example, one good citation is the 'World Parliament of Religions' of the "Symposia" section. So this is what needs to be done to as many as possible.

I think people from UK can find more information from the libraries by searching for Gururaj's publications or articles from old UK newspapers such as filmstrips etc. I know people that used to do this during studies in the US. I believe pretty much similar systems are available in the UK too.

addition: Not being forgetful, there is a Spanish Wikipedia article on Gururaj Ananda Yogi already established. If any users speak Spanish and can translate passages and transfer here, please do, after you judge and you agree on what is translated and transfered. Feel free to make additions / improvements on the Spanish article too.

This is just a suggestion. If you have any other ideas or comments please speak up, or simply click "edit" and add your stuff :).

Cheers,

MarekTT 09:54, 1 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Important changes to this article

Hi, Sorry if I do not follow the procedures exactly but I am new to this task. I have edited the entry for Gururaj Ananda Yogi based on facts that I have colected as part of my academic research about this author in University of California at Berkeley.

1 I have deleted the statement about Gururaj Ananda founding FISU

Gururaj Ananda Yogi did not found FISU as such society was founded in 1989 and thus after Gururaj Ananda Yogi died. FISU was founded by Robert Ward alias Rajesh Ananda and his wife alias Jasmini Ananda. FISU is a UK Registered Educational Charity No: 1061185 that, as it can be checked, was created a year+ after the death of Gururaj Ananda Yogi. So it would be stating something that cannot be true unless in Wikipedia we admit that people found societies or charities after they are dead. I have thereby deleted that statement because it is not true

2 I have changed the statement about the school of thought "Meditation for Spiritual Unfoldment"

Gururaj Ananda Yogi never followed or taught any particular school of thought. He in any case created his own school of thought. Back in 1980 Caroline Taylor, alias Savita Taylor wrote a book based on his teachings that was given the name Path of Unfoldment, which was a way Gururaj used to name the spiritual path to emphasize that it was not about acquiring something but about unfolding what is already within. The book was published by The British Meditation Society which is a registered charity in the UK with No 2238801 and that was founded by Gururaj Ananda Yogi in 1974 and registered by John Lamb, Tony Barlow and Peter Moore. After his death, Rajesh Ananda created his own society appart from those founded by Gururaj and coined the term Meditation for Spiritual Unfoldment.

3 I have taken away the external link to the shop of FISU website when citing his books as Wikipedia is not a comercial site and later in the article under the subtitle books these are referenced with their ISBNs properly

4 I have included an internal link to The International Foundation for Spiritual Unfoldment as I am planning to write an article on such foundation that includes relevant people from around the world and among them, famous writers and philosophers as Pedro Miguel Lamet, University Proffesors as Jim Lawer and Vidya Anderson and that will have its annual international meeting next July in Santa Rosa California.

5 I have reorganised the section on external links so that they reflect better the reality of the available webs relating to Gururaj Ananda Yogi and his works and disciples around the world

6 I have added a few quotes relevant to his teachings

7 I am including references but I am not familiar with editing here so I will need to learn it but plan to include them in the next few days. I am also rewriting the biography following the quality guidelines of Wikipedia.

Signed:

Ramon Leonato. I have been a Visiting Scholar in Berkeley University working on a project to put together the works of Gururaj Ananda Yogi. [1]. The project had to be stopped due to lack of funds but I have compiled 6,000 hours of recorded lectures, conversations and satsangs and have interviewed near to 100 of his disciples from the early times to the last days of his life. Due to my academic dedication to this author I have compiled a lot of facts and information that I will use to finish this article properly along the next few days.

Ramon Leonato December 20 2007 —Preceding comment was added at 12:07, 20 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

All referenced additions to this article are welcomed, especially by users that have immediate access to books, publications, websites etc and it seems that user Ramonleonato indeed has this access. One point to be stressed, is that all the opinions of any interested parties are to be presented equally and references are not to be deleted or being descriminated, as opposing another "better opinion". As long as there is an external / third party reference, any opinion that presents information form a variant point of view should be given room to co-exist with other opinions, no matter how strongly other users may feel about their own point of view. As per 20 Dec 2007 18:58GMT+2, the article now seems to have a decent basis for moving into a co-existing direction. Of course, the more users work on it, the better... things can only move forth. Keep on the work, all opinions to be presented from a nutral point of view (as much as this can be possible) Cheers! MarekTT (talk) 17:02, 20 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]