Talk:Gully emptier
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Difference between gully emptier and cesspool emptier
[edit]Is this image [added 13 Feb 2007] valid? Its caption (seen if you click on the image) seems to say that it sucks waste from waste storage tanks and nothing about emptying gullies:-
- Danish: Skraldesuger fra R98. Røret på toppen tilsluttes en studs gemt under fortovet, og skraldet suges ud fra en tank placeret et strategisk godt sted i nabolaget. [= "Waste suction apparatus from R98. The tube on the top is connected to a connecting piece kept under the pavement, and the waste is sucked out from a tank placed in a strategic good place in the neighbourhood."]
- English: Vacuum waste collection. The tube at the top fits a tube hidden under a "manhole" cover in the sidewalk, and the waste is sucked into the truck from a waste tank placed anywhere suitable in the block or building.
And the tube does not end in the long nozzle with handles and controls on which is characteristic of gully emptiers that I have seen Anthony Appleyard 09:51, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
It looks about the same as the one I have seen where I live. A truck with a huge tank on the back and a long hose sucks up stuff from storm drains, curbs, and ditches. Similar to a septic tank/cess pool emptying truck. KeepOnTruckin 16:08, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
- I, the photographer, know that this vehicle is NOT intended for stuff from the drains, but only for household waste and similar substances. I don't remember other english word for the vehicle you're looking for, but if a dane made the picture, it would probably be named "slamsuger.jpg" at Commons :-) -I'll just go check Commons, I think I saw one somewhere.
- (I admit it looks a bit like, though...) --G®iffen 15:02, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
This german pic (the "laubsauger) would be closer to the subject, but I think it's only designed for relatively dry items. G®iffen 15:08, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
- Mission completed, though the red truck does not show the long nozzle that the operator puts down the drain. G®iffen 15:22, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
- The one I see on the page now (the red one, not the orange) looks exactly like the thing we call a honey dipper. That is, the truck that empties portable toilets. A cesspool/septic tank emptying truck would look similar: a long flexible hose moved by the operator, not a hydralic arm, that the operator sticks into septic tanks and portable toilet to empty them. If all of us are thinking on the same page here, then we are thinking of the vehicle that sucks up leaves, mud, etc from the side of the road and from drains in the road. KeepOnTruckin 22:23, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
- There are two sorts of sucking up fallen leaves:-
- Sucking up dry leaves: this is merely a truck-sized vacuum cleaner.
- Sucking up wet sump deposit which may include leaves.
Anthony Appleyard 07:21, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
- The ones we have in Denmark (that I have noticed) often have both the flexhose and the hydraulic arm with a more solid hose only meant to reach the bottom of a (is it called...) drain sump (that place where solids fall to the bottom while the water continues through a pipe in the side, placed higher than the bottom of the hole).
- The arm is often used for septics as well, if the vehicle can back up to the tank. If that is not possible, the flex is rolled out.
- Maybe danish is not such a "sensitive" language on this topic - if the vehicle can suck up a mud-like substance, it's a "slamsuger", no matter what equipment it carries... (Slam is the category between solid and liquid).
- The leaf sucking truck would normally (in Denmark) be equipped with a sweeping machine as primary function, and the large hose only as extra equipment.
- G®iffen 10:13, 21 February 2007 (UTC)\
- THe thing in a storm drain that picks up the solids but allows the wter to continue into the pipe, I have always called that a catch basin. THe thing I think this article is referring to, and needs a picture of, is what I know as a catch basin cleaner. Its a truck with a hose that is moved by hydralics to the catch basin/sump pit/storm drain and sucks out all the dirt and stuff. Found pics here and here KeepOnTruckin 23:29, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
- In my experience the suction nozzle has hand controls on it and hangs from a counterweighted arm so the operator can move it about by hand. Anthony Appleyard 10:43, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
- The ones I know mostly have the hydraulic arm mounted between the cab and the tank, the arm pointing backwards when driving, and the water hose reel mounted as the back-most thing on the truck, but it should be the same function anyway, except which end of the vehicle is put closest to the work area...
- Links: manufacture / used vehicles, sewer sevice (low-qual. pic).
- B.t.w. I see in the used-trucks-pages that the crane thing is called "sugetårn" = "suction tower" in DK. Is there a special name for that in english? G®iffen 10:56, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
- ...And most of them has up and down buttons for that movement, but also a solid two-hand-grip for shaking the arrangement a bit by hand. G®iffen
Ok, newest image in there looks good. KeepOnTruckin 20:38, 23 February 2007 (UTC)