Talk:Guitar bracing

Talk:Bracing styles for steel string acoustic guitars

Welcome to the talk page for Bracing styles for steel string acoustic guitars. This is the 'what's inside the box' article, a resource for guitarists who would like to know more about steel string acoustic guitars, and also for luthiers, who I hope will contribute to this article and expand it. --Zanthorp (talk) 15:11, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Questions

Does this need to be restricted to steel string guitars? Can it be incorporated into guitar?

1Z (talk) 08:14, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

I also thought about that initially, and also thought about incorporating it into the article on steel string guitars. Bracing alone, just for steel string guitars is quite a large topic. The article is in its infancy. Much more could be added - variations on the X-brace system (including A-Bracing), the Ovation bracing system, alternative back bracing, differences in tone resulting from the changeover from scolloped bracing by Martin in the 1940s, for example. The article could end up being quite large. For that reason I thought it better to create a separate article and build on it. Bracing for classical guitars is different again, and is a far more complex topic requiring a great deal of research. Best to leave the article separate and build on it. Later on, if someone creates an article on Classical guitar bracing, maybe the 2 articles could be merged. --Zanthorp (talk) 05:44, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

One article could be split. The present article is not long and the topic has not been covered at all before. The title is very cumbersome, too. 1Z (talk) 15:16, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Which article do you want to split? The guitar articles I've seen so far need a lot of work. The steel string guitar articles include no sources at all, for example. It would be easier to find appropriate sources and write a new article than to try to fix an old one.

Yes, you are right about the title: it is cumbersome. I've given this a bit more thought. It will take quite a bit of work, even so, I'm prepared to try expanding the article to include bracing styles for classical guitar. That would be the most sensible approach. I don't have access to photos that would help. That old adage, "a picture is worth a thousand words" applies in this case. The best way to obtain copyright free photos and advice on sources would be for me to sign up to a luthiers' forum and ask for help. Its quite likely that one or two luthiers would get involved with writing the article, thus greatly improving it. When the article expansion starts it could be renamed Guitar Bracing Styles. Its got potential. I'll give it a go. --Zanthorp (talk) 06:43, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

I mean this article could be split if it gets large, as articles usually are, and not be split if it doesn't.

There is not problem with changing the title now (I prefer 'Bracing (Guitar)') and adding a stub for classical bracing. 1Z (talk) 17:34, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

OK, At the risk of sounding stupid, how can I change the title? It does not respond to the usual method of editing. BTW, for the title I think Guitar Bracing would be a better choice. I'll write a suitable lede for it once the title has been changed. --Zanthorp (talk) 07:43, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Use "move" 1Z (talk) 08:55, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

• Thanks. That's done. I'll go back to the sources before writing a suitable lede. --Zanthorp (talk) 06:39, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Lede now added. Its beginning to look like an article. --Zanthorp (talk) 03:34, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Taking a break

I'm taking a break from editing for a couple of weeks. While I'm away I'll try to enlist some help. --Zanthorp (talk) 08:50, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

article needs attention from an expert on the subject

The article could be greatly expanded by an expert on the topic. Any takers? --Zanthorp (talk) 11:44, 19 April 2010 (UTC)