Talk:Grocery store/Archive 1

Archive 1

Bodega Redir

Why does "bodegas" redirect here, when the article fails to have the word bodega in it, even once? I was trying to figure out what a bodega is. This article does not help. Punkonjunk (talk) 18:17, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

Bodega is now WP:DISAMBIG with link to Convenience store. ~KvnG 23:13, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

Notable grocery stores

This list is very US-centered and contains virtually no grocery store companies from elsewhere. I think it would be a good idea to remove this list completely. HJV

No comments for five years. I think such poorly defined lists add little but clutter. Removed. --LPfi (talk) 11:17, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

The US store photos from the early 20th century are nice, but the couple of later photos are not representative of what a modern US grocery store looks like today. (wilke339) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.211.212.206 (talk) 13:30, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Definition ??

The definition of a supermarket being bigger than a grocery store does not reflect common usage in the US (at least in the South). For example stores listed as "supermarket" in phone directories are usually of convenience store size. Grocery stores are usually operated by chains and are second in size only to hyper-markets. The definition used here is more common in Europe, where a "supermarket" is the equivalent of a US "grocerry store". (Clarifying that may keep a couple of people from nasty surprises when visiting the US and going shopping.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.51.15.7 (talk) 01:06, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

I agree. Though Wikipedia is not a dictionary, the Grocery store article is presented in a confusing manner: one of the reasons I think a merge with Grocer would help readers. Meanwhile, the term 'supermarket' as far as I can tell, refers less to size than to its self-service approach, and this meaning seems to be universal across the English-speaking world. --Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 21:56, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

I would argue that supermarket tends to refer to both size and variety of goods. I think grocery store relates more to stores that sell just food, and a small amount of non-food items, wheras supermarkets offer a larger stock of things like cooking utensils. It could also be said that supermarkets have some service areas, such as delis, bakeries, butchers, etc. VivaLaPandaz (talk) 21:19, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

Reference #8?

What is it doing in the middle of nowhere???Killiondude (talk) 06:31, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Well spotted! I removed the offending footnote today. --Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 21:50, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Opening Line

The opening line is a bit lame IMO. sells food and other non-food items. Sounds a bit redundant doesn't it? --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 11:56, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

Well, it's better than just "sells items", because that would also cover every other type of shop. But good point. I've changed it to "primary sells food" and clarified the supermarket distinction. --McGeddon (talk) 12:16, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

Electronic or online shopping

I expanded that section a bit and added what I've found to be stores that are mentioned in articles. Also some sales figures. Perhaps an editor more familiar with European stores can expand on the European section of it. Not being in that area, I'm not familiar with popular ones. I tried to be as even-handed as possible without promoting Amazon or Walmart, but those appear to be the largest, as well as Peapod. Please clean it up if it isn't even, without it turning into just a list. Esoxid^{talk•contribs} 22:50, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

Tackling that To-do List

Hello fellow Wikipedians, I will be taking on this article as part of an assignment for my editing class at University. I will be focusing on the page's organization and tightening the structure of the article and the sentences of said article. If there's anything more I can do, please reach out and let me know! It's a learning process so I appreciate all the help I can get from more seasoned editors. Emuetzel1 (talk) 23:05, 22 February 2018 (UTC)

Companies Section Revision

This section almost seems unnecessary to this particular Wikipedia Article - it seems like it is just concerned with the history of food markets in Latin America rather than the history of Grocery Stores as a whole. Has it been a discussed as to whether or not this section could be removed? Otherwise, are there other countries or regions where grocery store development was also important enough to mention in this article under that same section? Emuetzel1 (talk) 17:52, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

I went ahead and, rather than delete this section completely, added a couple subsections below the newly named "Regional Variations" section. This way content creators will be able to tell where they should add specific information in regards to more international information. Emuetzel1 (talk) 18:59, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

Prices Section Revision

I removed a large chunk of information from the Prices section of this article and moved it to the Food prices article instead. Most of the information correlated to specific economics of food pricing and projections of where it will go in the future which I found inappropriate for an article about Grocery Stores. Already, the Prices section on this article alone was longer than the Food Prices article itself, so I think that information will make a good addition to the article it was moved to. —Emuetzel1 (talk) 18:59, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

Merger_proposal

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

To not merge on grounds that these are independently notable topics, with enough content to warrant separate discussion. Klbrain (talk) 17:35, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

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Formal request has been received to merge: Supermarket into Grocery store; dated: May, 18, 2020. Proposer's Rationale: Supermarkets are a type of grocery store. Can't see why they should be separate articles. - Interstellarity. Discuss here. GenQuest ^{"Talk to Me"} 19:17, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

• No Merge I seriously don't think these two articles should be merged at all, as I personally believe this isn't a necessary thing to do, these two are quite different and it shouldn't be seen as the same, both are different sizes and are seen as different assets, supermarkets make bigger businees and are more cheaper compared to grocery stores, which are mainly for food. In conclusion, I believe that Supermarket shouldn't be merged into Grocery store. Rawsar (talk) 19:06, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose, I think people would consider that the history of a grocery store and the modern self-service supermarket are different things that belong in different articles. Blythwood (talk) 18:09, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose What's in theis image is a grocery store, but not a supermarket. --Melsj (talk) 06:58, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose & Rename to Grocer A supermarket is a type of grocery store. In the U.S., small grocery stores may be rare or non-existent, but not in many or most developing countries. There is a problem with the term because in the US "grocery store" now does mean only supermarket. Grocer, at least in US English, implies the small grocery store that we previously also had in the US. In UK usage, according to Oxford it is the most proper term to cover any kind of shop selling groceries, whether a corner store or a supermarket.Keizers (talk) 13:36, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
  • @Keizers: I'm not quite convinced that grocer is the best title for the article. I feel this refers more to a person rather than a place. Is there a title that is neither American or British? You are welcome to open an RM for this article to discuss your points on what the article title should be or maybe the article context should be improved to differentiate the two words. I hope this helps. Interstellarity (talk) 23:56, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.