Talk:Grindhouse
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GRINDHOUSES ARE NOT THE SAME THING AS EXPLOITATION FILMS. ONE IS A BUILDING, THE OTHER IS A MOVIE. They should not share an article. Some people believe that the subject of grindhouses is "fully covered" in the article about exploitation films... however, even if two topics are tangentially related, that does not make them the same at all. Wiki has an article about world war 2, and another about hitler. Even though these two topics are intimately related, they should not be merged. Same principle applies here. 70.128.219.137 22:28, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
please see relevant policy at WP:MERGE / WP:NOT - Wikipedia is not a dictionary; there does not need to be a separate entry for every concept in the universe. For example, "Flammable" and "Non-flammable" can both be explained in an article on Flammability.
Regarding your assertion, a grindhouse is an American term for a theater that mainly showed exploitation films. It is also a term used to describe the genre of films that played in such theatres. Grindhouse films are also referred to as "exploitation films." This is fully explained in the "Grindhouse cinema" section of exploitation film.
Film
[edit]Dear Tarantino fans, please note the term "grindhouse" and "grind house" are synonyms that have been in use for decades prior to the film of the same name being released. The topic of "grindhouse" is explicity covered in the "grindhouse cinema" section of the Exploitation film article. For the film, see Grindhouse (film).
This article is totally untrue
[edit]If you watch the film Lady of Burlesque (1943) one of the characters refers to the burlesque theatre they are performing at on 42nd Street as a 'grindhouse'. I.e. a place where 'bump-n'-grind striptease takes place. The stuff in the article about grinding out movies in theatres which were used as homeless shelters (!) is just sheer nonsense put in to discredit the wikipedia. Colin4C (talk) 13:21, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
Generic term
[edit]I think there is a tendancy to try to put a specific definition on a generic term "grindhouse" that may have meant different things at different times in different parts of the country. "Grindhouses" loosely were the urban equivalent of drive-in theaters: they showed second-run of "A" list movies or double features of "B" movies, and with the rise of the mall multiplexes, carried more and more of the "B" movies very often off the bottom of the distribution system. I have seen the term used to describe the theaters, but before the hoopla over Rodriguez/Tarantino Grindhouse The Movie did not hear or read the term used to define a specific movie genre. R/T G-T-M with trailers, concession stand ads, a horror movie and a slasher movie (badly scratched and flaky) recreates the experience of a Grindhouse theater or a 1970s Drive-In interchangeably.Naaman Brown (talk) 20:13, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
- Actually I think it's worse than that. As far as I can discern "Grind House" as a film term is entirely Tarantino's invention. I remember him using the term in the BBC TV show "Moving Pictures" in the run up to the release of Pulp Fiction (He was talking about his poster collection if I recall and refereed to the film "The Big Bird House" as the sort of film that would play in a "real grindhouse" but It is over 15 years since I saw it.) and I had NEVER heard the term before, and have not since been able to find it in any prior publications.
- It's fine for people retrospectively to talk about "Grindhouses" or Grindhouse movies" as long as we all are aware that this is an anachronistic term (after all the same is true of "Film Noir", a term the French applied to those American films after the fact that was then popularised in academic circles). Only since the release of Tarantino's movie with Rodriguez has the term entered popular use. All the links on this page are pretty useless (One is dead, one is just a page of links to forums, the final merely a page that's publicity for an event) and I've not found anything to contradict this view. --Verlaine76 (talk) 13:37, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
- I am 50 years of age.
- My Wikipedia ID is the same as my IMDb ID where I was one of their top guys in the 1990s. I know that because they told me I was.
- I had never heard the term before Tarantino used it, although, as soon as he did, I knew what he meant. It would be like the old Coronet Theatre on Yonge St. in Toronto, where I saw a scratchy print of Texas Chainsaw on a screen with a giant rip in it. They now sell jewellery there.
- It is a useful word; I too believe it to be an anachronistic neologism.
- Varlaam (talk) 16:10, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
Contra Wikipedia/Wiktionary, the true origins of "grindhouse" and its gradual development as a generic term are outlined in this academic article: https://www.academia.edu/6632128/From_Exhibition_to_Genre_The_Case_of_Grind-House_Films — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:8:8380:ECF:21E:C2FF:FEA5:6F89 (talk) 04:42, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
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[edit]the websites grindhouse.com is no longer up and should be removed from the page. 2601:647:CB01:3330:CD0B:EEAB:33C:2382 (talk) 07:58, 23 March 2024 (UTC)