Talk:Gregory G. Colomb

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Requested move

I'm requesting move to remove middle initial per WP:NAMEPEOPLE. --Evil1987 17:39, 6 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

WP:NCP says that where a middle initial is part of the name most commonly used for someone (e.g. John F. Kennedy), it should be retained in article titles. In this case, "Gregory G. Colomb" is used many times more often than plain "Gregory Colomb". It was requested that this article be renamed but there was no consensus for it be moved. --Stemonitis 16:38, 11 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I knew that policy and you're right. I must have accidentally used the wrong middle initial or something in my Google testing. --Evil1987 14:49, 12 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Gregory Colomb's middle name was "Gerard". He graduated from Holy Cross High School in New Orleans in 1969, and then attended Rice University in Houston Pamarcot52 (talk) 19:13, 6 December 2011 (UTC).[reply]

Why is this person here?

Colomb appears to be yet another tenured mediocrity whose greatest distinction has been to attach his name, very much lower on the totem pole, to work done by other academics who were well known in his youth (for example, Wayne Booth). One may doubt that their lustre, such as it is, gains anything from Colomb's.

Is Wikipedia supposed to be a Who's Who? of literary bureaucrats? Academic publications in the humanities do not represent the same level of achievement as genuine authorship. Even when produced by "trade" publishing houses, they are primarily credentials for employment, and are not subject to any definite criterion of excellence except membership in the right social circles. Not even good grammar and correct footnote form are indispensable.

To merit inclusion in an encyclopedia, people holding tenured faculty positions at universities should demonstrate something in addition to these club awards. They should demonstrate some form of historical stature, or at least notoriety. Obviously, this does not mean that they have to be exemplary human beings. Harvey Mansfield, for example, while a person of questionable character by conventional standards (he advocates lying to the masses because they cannot handle the truth), is certainly influential enough to merit an article. What may politely be termed the "controversy" surrounding Ward Churchill may earn him an entry even if his writings do not.

There should be lists of eminent contemporaries in which mere professors can be found, along with business executives, run-of-the-mill sports figures, members of the judiciary, the very rich, holders of the more obscure world's records, television comedians, and similarly ephemeral beings. But surely an encyclopedia is not one of those lists.

I pass over the possibility that Colomb himself wrote this puff piece (the usual way in which relatively insignificant people insinuate themselves into Wikipedia). After all, it may have been written by some sycophant, maybe even without Colomb's knowledge. --Kalosar (talk) 19:23, 22 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Why this person is here

Kalosar,

Gregory Colomb is here because I started the article. I am definitely neither Colomb himself, nor his colleague, nor his student, nor his relative. Rather, I am his, as well as Wayne Booth’s and Joseph Williams’ “sycophant” for the co-authorship of the notable textbook on research writing, Craft of Research. I say “notable,” because this title not only became a household name for any US researcher student, but also, due to multiple foreign translations, found its way into a wider world of research studies. Being myself a foreigner, I can assure the book’s success in academic and non-academic setting in my part of the world. As to Colomb’s individual input, judging from authors’ interview to the publisher, they worked collaboratively to the extent that “sometimes the text felt almost anonymous—the voice that emerged was not that of any one of us—but it did seem to grow into a distinctive, coherent presence” (see a link in the article). So, in my opinion, each of the authors deserves a credit for this work, at least. --Anstan07 (talk) 16:42, 8 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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