Talk:Greg Williams (sportscaster)

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MrWhich's shenanigans

Dude, do you live on this page? I'd appreciate it if you quit vandalizing the edits made to this page. Just because YOUR personal POV clashes with the information on here, doesn't give you right to erase everything. I'd like you to cite YOUR sources that you used to prove it was not factual information. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.182.200.56 (talk • contribs) 00:58, 24 December 2007

You added vile, disgustingly POV edits to an article on a living person. I'd encourage you to read the policy on biographies of living persons before attempting to reinsert your POV edits. Mr Which ??? 04:03, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

How do you know I'm not Mr. Williams myself? Do you know him personally? Do you even live CLOSE to the DFW area? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.182.200.56 (talk • contribs) 01:26, 24 December 2007

Doesn't matter if you're god himself, and you know everything about Greggo. All that matters is whether the information as you provided it complies with WP policy on verifiability and biographies of living persons. Mr Which ??? 05:06, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Per WP:BLP and WP:RS, all unsourced information that may be potentially libel or untrue must be removed per Jimmy Wales and policy. You have the burden of proof to add in the citations, and failure to do so will result in warnings per WP:BLP. Seicer (talk) (contribs) 07:12, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Appropriate sources for WP:BLP

Some of the sources being used here probably don't qualify as WP:RS since they're being used for negative information on a WP:BLP. I've posted this for comment at Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#Dallas_Observer_blog_on_BLP. AliveFreeHappy (talk) 05:06, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

As a former resident of Dallas, the DO's blog is the definitive source on what is going on at The Ticket. They have inside sources that no one else does. Mr Which ??? 05:12, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

They may have sources no one else does, but that doesn't mean they fit WP:VER, WP:RS, and especially WP:BLP. My concern is how do we know that they're a reliable source? AliveFreeHappy (talk) 06:44, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Observer is a well-respected newspaper in the Dallas community. In some ways, since the corporatization of the DMN with the sale to Belo, it's a more respected (in the community) paper than that far more established daily. They do serious reportage and feature writing, and the blog is a subsidiary of the main paper, just as is the DMN's blog. Mr Which ??? 06:47, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

With WP:BLP issues we have to differentiate between newpapers and their blogs, especially when the information from them is potentially defamatory. There is no way to know on the blog what the sources are, and therefore it fails WP:RS and the information should probably be removed. See also Wikipedia:Verifiability#Questionable_sources and from that same page further down The requirement to provide carefully selected qualitative sources for exceptional claims especially applies in the context of scientific or medical topics, historical events, politically charged issues, and biographies of living people (emphasis added) and Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons#Presumption_in_favor_of_privacy and especially Wikipedia:BLP#Remove_unsourced_or_poorly_sourced_contentious_material Editors should remove any contentious material about living persons that is unsourced, relies upon sources that do not meet standards specified in Wikipedia:Verifiability, or is a conjectural interpretation of a source AliveFreeHappy (talk) 01:57, 25 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What has happened with Williams' career is an unquestioned, uncontroversial fact. He no longer works for the Ticket. I'm not sure if the DMN has reported on it yet, but I'll see if it can be sourced properly to a source such as that. Mr Which ??? 17:50, 25 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed the material that is sourced only to the Unfair Park Blog. Mr Which ??? 18:01, 25 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
So can we put all this back in now? Read this, reporting about what was reported on the radio by Williams' co-hosts, even if it is Unfair Park:

http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/unfairpark/2007/12/the_last_word_on_the_tickets_h.php

Mhudson3 (talk) 14:26, 26 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

- I'm not certain it matters, unless it can be sourced to a reliable source. Even if you yourself saw Greggo passed out on a bar with white powder under his nose, it has to be verifiable through reliable sources. Evidently, per above, blogs don't count. I don't necessarily think that's good policy, but if it's policy, it's policy. Mr Which ??? 15:11, 26 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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