Talk:Green armies/Archive 1
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Question:
Does the Kuban-Black Sea army here correspond with the Kuban-Black Sea army of spring 1918, and the Taman Army of summer 1918, who escaped encirclement via the Caucasus mountains, or is this another Kuban-Black Sea Army?
Thanks
Jacob Haller 06:12, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
This is crap,but I don't have time to change it all now. The Green's were bourgeois nationalists.Harrypotter 17:48, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
Ptolemy Barnes --86.29.192.7 12:38, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
I agree that this page is crap, but bourgeuis nationalists!? I was under the opinion that the Green Army is an umbrella term, used to refer to various peasant militia that operated almost entirely independently during the Russian Civil War. In my experience, it is used artificially as it fits cosily alongside the Red Army and White Army.
I agree that the use of the name Green Army is used wrongly. I belive that the Greens were the Peasants who rose up in revolt, either in small scale sporadic ones, or in the larger scale ones like in the Volga during the War of the Black Eagle and perhaps, if he can be counted, Alexander Antonov's campiagn as he did raise a large force of 40,000 or so to fight against the Reds, and he didn't fight with the Whites as he was himself a former Bolshevik etc. The Green's weren't Nationalists. Not overall, some maye have been, but overall the use should be shown to sum up the peasant revolts, rebellions and bandit armies that roamed the Russian countryside during the war. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jgrosas (talk • contribs) 16:36, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
Purge
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I'd like to see a map of their area of operation. Or were they widely distributed? --Error (talk) 21:12, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
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The Black Book
I think there's some discussion to be had about the inclusion of The Black Book of Communism as a reference, given the controversial nature of the source in question. I have gone ahead and removed the text citing Stéphane Courtois, both because his contributions to the book have been widely criticized among scholars (including co-contributor Nicolas Werth) and because the segment that cited him has little to do with the subject of the article - merely making comparisons between the Russian and French revolutions.
The remaining citations for the Black Book come from Nicolas Werth himself, whose section "State against its People" has been praised as the most well-researched part of the book. I would appreciate hearing others' thoughts on the matter so that we can build a consensus on its continued inclusion. --Grnrchst (talk) 13:28, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
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Figes in translation
@Grnrchst, in your translation from es.wp, are the imported Figes 1996 page numbers reflective of the book's English or Español edition? The es.wp article (es:Ejército Verde (Rusia)) appears to use the Español version. If true and all citations in the article referring to the translated edition, then we should switch the reference at the bottom so readers know the correct source to reference. If the short footnotes refer to multiple editions of the book, we should distinguish the edition citations to avoid confusion. czar 17:58, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
- I just came back to post the same thing and it's already here. :) I'm going to switch to the 2010 version used in the eswp article. There might be issues with some of the other translated sources too. czar 04:52, 7 February 2022 (UTC)