Talk:Greeks in Syria
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Ottoman period
[edit]There is a problematic structure in this article. It should deal with the Greek ethnic community in Syria, but the entire section relating to the Ottoman period deals with the Antiochian Greek Christian community, which is not ethnically Greek, but predominantly Arab. The sources are there and can be viewed. I ask if it is possible to intervene. --Syphax98 (talk) 22:03, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- The article was written by users belonging to the Antiochian Greeks who adhere to an ideology maintaining they are Greeks from Greece and came to Syria with Alexander the Great. It was a part of an organized propaganda campaign with a page on facebook called "operation Antioch". So this explain why this article doesnt make sense.--Attar-Aram syria (talk) 23:16, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- This is a problem that has been extended to the entire encyclopedia in recent years by a group of activists, who have often intervened with cherry picking, WP:Fringe and WP: POV (often insulting), imposing their ideological views (which are not representative of their communities anyway). This problem is not limited to articles relating to the Antiochian Rum Christians, but also to the Maronites. Simply, we have to intervene on the article by eliminating the problem. --Syphax98 (talk) 08:13, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- I deleted the problematic sections, if there are any problems with my edit on the article please discuss it here. --Syphax98 (talk) 08:20, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- Anyway, I checked the chronology and you wrote the sections in question in 2015. --Syphax98 (talk) 10:49, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- I deleted the problematic sections, if there are any problems with my edit on the article please discuss it here. --Syphax98 (talk) 08:20, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- This is a problem that has been extended to the entire encyclopedia in recent years by a group of activists, who have often intervened with cherry picking, WP:Fringe and WP: POV (often insulting), imposing their ideological views (which are not representative of their communities anyway). This problem is not limited to articles relating to the Antiochian Rum Christians, but also to the Maronites. Simply, we have to intervene on the article by eliminating the problem. --Syphax98 (talk) 08:13, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
I see no problems with your edits. As for the sections, I did not write them. These were sections written by the "Operation Antioch" users in the Rum article. I, just like you, intervened there and made it an article about the Arabic speaking Christians as it should be. The Operation Antioch users were upset so I moved their edits here as a sort of compensation because my energy is limited and I was sick of keep arguing. Check the Antiochian Greeks article talk page, starting with the third thread. Its exhausting.--Attar-Aram syria (talk) 12:49, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for your feedback. I agree that arguing with certain types of identitarians is very difficult. I left the English-language Wikipedia in 2020 (I'm actually from the Italian-language Wikipedia) after getting into an exhausting discussion in Talk:Arab Christians with a Phoenicianist user who made racist and ethnoglorifying comments (the user in question was finally blocked a few months ago); it is very exhausting to argue with those who are in bad faith but someone has to do it. --Syphax98 (talk) 13:27, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
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