Talk:Greek identity

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Redirect it back

Actually, I cannot see any reason for having this article at all. It's been used as a mere dumping ground for problematic material (POV, OR, falsified source...) from the Greeks article. There's nothing in a proper discussion of "Greek identity" that doesn't also belong in the "Greeks" article, and the topic is not so fantastically complex that it couldn't be adequately treated there for lack of space. Either something is relevant and well-written, then it can go into Greeks directly, or it is not. Most of what was here was not. Fut.Perf. ☼ 08:50, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

And yet, everything here is supposedly not acceptable on the Greeks article. So we have an impasse. Any solutions? Let me guess: delete, delete, delete. Deucalionite (talk) 16:38, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Edit warring

Rather than block both of you (Deuca och Future), I've gone ahead a prot'd the article for a week. Future: You know better than to edit war; you're an admin. Deuca: Talk it out and see WP:OWN. You now have the opportunity to discuss this whole thing and not revert :-) Yay for everyone! No, but seriously, discuss and do not revert. Scarian ^{Call me Pat!} 17:24, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for intervening Scarian. Deucalionite (talk) 17:32, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

For the record...

For the record, butchering this article in order to placate certain personal fancies goes against NPOV policies. Despite the caveats inherent in this article, they can and shall be improved upon. Case in point, I already removed in this edit a series of genetic studies that really didn't focus on Greek genetic samples. There are some other things that need verifying and tweaking (i.e. no page number for Cavalli-Sforza citation) so that things move along in the right direction. At first, I disagreed with Xenovatis when he created this article since Future made a convincing case against subcontracting content to other articles. I eventually realized, however, that since most users at the Greeks article disliked "Greek haplotypes" it would be best to fix things here and avoid the constant edit-warring over there. With a little collaboration, I'm sure things will get done. "Deleting" and "tagging" doesn't always solve problems. Deucalionite (talk) 18:33, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]