Talk:Greco (grape)

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Did you know... that wine historians have speculated that the Italian grape Greco may have been used to make the Roman "cult wine" Falernian?

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Proposed merge of Asprinio bianco here

Asprinio bianco appears to be just another name for the much more famous Greco variety. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 20:37, 16 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose unless there is better evidence that they are the same. The source I found indicates that it may be related to Greco, but not the same as it.^[1]

References

^ Hyl, Tom (16 November 2009). "Italian Indigenous Varieties: Ancient Asprinio From Campania". avvinare. Retrieved 14 November 2016.

Please see:

L. Costantini, A. Monaco, J.F. Vouillamoz, M. Forlani, M.S. Grando (2015). Genetic relationships among local Vitis vinifera cultivars from Campania (Italy). VITIS-Journal of Grapevine Research. 44 (1): 25–34: "The genotypes of 4 accessions of Asprinio and 11 accessions of Greco di Tufo are identical at a total of 16 microsatellite loci, which demonstrates the synonymy of these 2 varieties, as was indicated by ampelographic descriptions" (page 31).

It's the same grape. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 23:33, 25 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Miszatomic, I have to ask: did you actually read that source before you removed the merge tag? Because if so, it's hard to understand your reasoning. By the way, I don't think a discussion in which the last post was within the last 24 hours can really be considered "stale". Would you like to reconsider? Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 15:44, 26 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Having had a look at the Constantini paper (which is 2005, rather than 2015; although this isn't important), I tend to agree now agree with the argument that they are genetically the same grape variety. However, there is more to a grape than its genes - including viticultural practices and cultural interpretation. Either way, I'm quite neutral on whether they should be merged or not. I've added an additional brief mention the genetic identity on the Asprinio page; perhaps such bilateral linking is sufficient. Klbrain (talk) 10:39, 27 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Addendum to my last comment: it is possible for two organisms to be genetically identical and yet independently notable. For example, consider identical twins such as those listed in Category:Identical twin male actors. Klbrain (talk) 16:07, 28 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Hyl, Tom (16 November 2009). "Italian Indigenous Varieties: Ancient Asprinio From Campania". avvinare. Retrieved 14 November 2016.

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