Talk:Greatcoat
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Army
[edit]I've heard that the Russian army (and maybe the Nazis, too) didn't issue their soldiers with sleeping bags because the coats were able to do double duty for that purpose. However, I have no citation, so I won't put it on the article.
*Septegram*Talk*Contributions* 14:34, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
Leather?
[edit]Most of the greatcoats I've seen have been made of wool, not leather. Hairy Dude 22:09, 3 September 2007 (UTC),
My understanding is tht greatcoats are always made of wool\serge, i have always associated Leather with trench coats. Sheep21 15:01, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
Popular (geek) culture
[edit]John Barrowman, who plays Captain Jack Harkness from Doctor Who wears one of these, in the series proper, and it's spin-off, Torchwood. - 72.141.197.83 (talk) 15:55, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
Cape
[edit]I think some clarification about having a cape is needed, since not everything called a "greatcoat" appears to have one. 70.20.135.211 (talk) 22:37, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
- In fact, none of the photos show any kid of cape. I came to this page to say I think the cape is imaginary. Dubious. Needs citation. Original research. Pseudoscience. Cryptoapparelogy. Maybe Bigfoot's greatcoat has a cape. 198.49.180.40 (talk) 21:27, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
- Early greatcoats did have capes, they reached to just below the shoulder blades. I think they fell out of fashion in the 1830's though. They are real, the did exist, just need someone who has access to images of early greatcoats or at least reference books on the subject. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sheep21 (talk • contribs) 00:01, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
- There is file in WikiCommons not presently used, which shows a French dragoon's helmet and greatcoat with cloak around the shoulders from the time of the First Empire (1812 specifically). 173.206.72.241 (talk) 16:29, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
- Early greatcoats did have capes, they reached to just below the shoulder blades. I think they fell out of fashion in the 1830's though. They are real, the did exist, just need someone who has access to images of early greatcoats or at least reference books on the subject. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sheep21 (talk • contribs) 00:01, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
Relationships
[edit]Wikipedia lacks an article on Topcoats, the lightest coat, and one needs to be written. And then there is an article on Overcoats, an intermediate coat. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overcoat Then there is this article on the Greatcoat, which is the heaviest and warmest coat, which lacks a link to the article on the Overcoat. A man of fashion might own one of each, to be set for any sort of weather. Rumjal --rumjal 06:05, 16 November 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rumjal (talk • contribs)
More on historical origins needed
[edit]Perhaps there is a good military history text which can explain this. AFAIK this is a Prussian thing from which it spread to Imperial Russia and the UK (the UK of course still using pre WWI Prussian style uniforms for bands and guards). 118.90.109.178 (talk) 03:15, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
- " It was popular in the 15th century as a military uniform and casual wear for the wealthy" appears to be too early: military uniform did not really exist at that time and the leisure of the wealthy was hunting and other sports. A good start would be reading through the OED quotations for greatcoat and consider the context. Perhaps the earlier thick coats in the British Isles were of an another kind e.g. frockcoat.--Felix Folio Secundus (talk) 09:42, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
- Here is an example of "watchcoat" from an 18th century novel by Laurence Sterne: http://www.munseys.com/diskone/poliromandex.htm //--Felix Folio Secundus (talk) 09:48, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
was added by me in diff 347707968. As explained in the edit summary, the link redirs to de:Mantel which has a subsection "Paletot". 118.90.14.223 (talk) 14:19, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
Proposal to merge British Warm into Greatcoat
[edit]I see a merge tag has been placed on the British Warm article, so I've added one here for completeness. My vote is:
- Oppose. I have possessed both and they are totally different coats. The British Warm is beige civilian coat of medium weight with brown leather buttons; the greatcoat, by contrast, is a much more substantia, heavyweight, grey military coat of a different cut and style with metal buttons. Bermicourt (talk) 06:18, 4 June 2018 (UTC)