Talk:Great Western and Great Central Joint Railway

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Name of company

When looking at old OS maps for High Wycombe I notice that the new railway that appears first in the 1923 survey (pub 1926) is called "Great Western and North Eastern Joint Line". It's called the same in the 1938 (1944) survey.

This contradicts the assertion in the article "Whilst the Great Central Railway was a constituent company of the London and North Eastern Railway, the title of the joint railway did not change at the 1923 Grouping". But I'm not a railway expert and wonder if anyone can confirm/deny this. Chris55 (talk) 17:58, 20 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A further indication comes from the Middlesex X SW sheet rev 1912 publ 1920 which shows GW&GCJR - and also GCR for a branch; whereas the rev 1935 pub 1936 shows GWR and L&NER respectively. Clearly there was quite a bit of change. Chris55 (talk) 22:56, 20 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ordnance Survey maps, whilst very reliable as aerial drawings, are not reliable for the names of railway companies. Maps printed in the late 1950s showed "Great Western Railway" etc. You just need to examine ref 2 in the article for confirmation that the legal name of this undertaking was "The Great Western and Great Central Railways Joint Committee" right down to the end of 1947. --Redrose64 (talk) 11:39, 21 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, maybe there was a difference between the legal name and what was used in their working literature - but I'll leave it alone! Chris55 (talk) 18:27, 22 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Line map

Is the GWR Greenford Branch missing here? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.31.229.121 (talk) 18:08, 8 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

No, because it was never part of the joint line. The joint line proper was between Northolt Junction and Ashendon Junction; to connect to this, the GWR built new lines between Old Oak Common and Northolt Junction, between Ealing and Greenford, and between Ashendon Junction and Aynho Junction; but these were always pure GWR. --Redrose64 (talk) 20:29, 8 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]