Talk:Great Seal of Ireland
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Clerk of Crown and Hanaper's two seals in 1922
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- Clerk of Crown and Hanaper: 5-6 Dec 1922
- Great Seal of Ireland.
- Letter from Gerard Horan, Clerk of Crown and Hanaper, to Kennedy informing him that he had handed over the Great Seal of Ireland to the 'Imperial Representative' at Viceregal Lodge but was retaining the 'former' Great Seal; copy letter from Kennedy endorsing his actions and mentioning that his future position as an 'officer of our show' was under consideration.
This description is confusing. My best guess is that
- "the 'former' Great Seal" is the matrix of the Great Seal of Ireland in use at Dublin Castle since the 1910 accession of George V
- "the Great Seal of Ireland" [handed over by Horan to Healy] was the "private seal" mentioned in the 1922-12-06 letters patent, to be used by Healy until the Free State seal was ready [in 1925]. In which case...
- ...was this "private seal" a new one made specifically for Healy, perhaps with his new title, maybe even with his own name, coat of arms or the like?
- ...or perhaps it was the pre-existing Privy Seal of Ireland, previously in the custody of the Chief Secretary for Ireland?
jnestorius(talk) 13:26, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
- See also Talk:Great Seal of the Irish Free State#Tim Healy's private seal jnestorius(talk) 12:15, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
- National Archives of Ireland file TSCH/3/S1711 (Sep 1922-Jun 1927) is titled "Great Seal of Ireland: disposal". Someone ought to read it... jnestorius(talk) 08:18, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
- Also:
- FIN/1/1253 "Great Seal for Ireland; cost of preparing a duplicate" (1922-1923)
- FIN/1/1254 "Disposal of Great Seal taken from Four Courts" (1922)
- jnestorius(talk) 08:31, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
- Also:
- National Archives of Ireland file TSCH/3/S1711 (Sep 1922-Jun 1927) is titled "Great Seal of Ireland: disposal". Someone ought to read it... jnestorius(talk) 08:18, 16 March 2020 (UTC)