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New Zealand game

What makes the game "unofficial" and is there a source for this and why the match doesn't count to goal and caps statistics? Mn1548 (talk) 13:18, 29 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It's a bit of a grey area but I think the biggest giveaway is that neither team or respective associations even acknowledged it happened (GB and NZ) unlike the 2012 Sweden friendly and proposed 2021 Zambia friendly. So although there's no source to definitively say the match doesn't count, there is no official or sufficient source to suggest it does count. The cited match report merely names two goalscorers and is by a reporter who said he wasn't sure about anything else because he had no access to the stadium. All the other reports seem to stem from that one. Apparently there was a plan for Hege Riise to "rotate heavily" during the game but nobody knows what substitutions were made which again isn't helpful from the FAs/NOCs. Slightly odd for the bodies responsible for awarding caps to go out of their way to be so secretive and counterproductive if it did count. Usually they actively try to celebrate ocassions like that, all but 4 players were on for GB debuts had it been recognised. There hasn't even been clarification on whether this training game was played within IFAB regulations with regards to substitution rules, half lengths, number of halves etc. By all accounts it was just two teams essentially holding a last minute joint training session 11 v 11 as NZ had not played since March 2020 and GB had obviously never played together with the only planned friendly cancelled. Seems tenuous at best to be awarding caps and certainly impossible to be accurate. Hjk1106 (talk) 15:12, 29 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

That seems fair, I haven't found anything to say they should count to official statistics but nothing to say they shouldn't either so probably best to keep things as it is and ensure things are consistent unless any source is found to say otherwise. Mn1548 (talk) 17:56, 29 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

To piggyback off the non-Olympic matches theme, doesn't look like any stats reference sites (e.g. fbref and soccerway) logged the 2012 Sweden friendly meaning everyone that played in that game actually has one more cap than credited with on these sites. May lead to some confusion but at least the Swedish FA has a comprehensive match centre here and the current stats on this page include it. Hjk1106 (talk) 18:58, 29 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

To be honest I think the stats very inconsistent between Great Britain women's Olympic football team and the stats on each individual players pages. My personal opinion is that I don't see why England/Scotland/Wales/Northefn Ireland friendlies count and GB friendlies don't. Also seen as the friendly is not part of the Olympics I don't see why the Team GB website would cover it but it's still strange that the New Zealand association don't. If the Swedish association recognise the 2012 game then I think that should stand, but I would also say that the New Zealand one should as it's an international that happened, but that's just personal opinion. Mn1548 (talk) 19:15, 29 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]