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The new pano is a lovely pic (it is a FP after all), but I don't think entirely appropriate for the article, or the accompanying caption.

With the pic you replaced I actually originally started with a very similar pano to yours and cropped it down to focus on the road. As the new pic is, the road is less than a quarter of the pic, and all but invisible unless you open it full size (and I know where to look for the road!).

The caption says The Great Alpine Road winds across Mt Hotham, clinging to the side and ridge of the mountain, but in the new pic the focus is a big mountain valley, not the road. If you want to leave as is, perhaps the caption needs to be changed?

Otherwise, can I suggest that you crop this image down to focus more on the road, similiar to what I had, and as suggested by the caption. This would be more informative for this article (I realise it technically won't then be the FP, but this pic is used in several other articles anyway).

What do you think? --jjron 07:53, 29 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah see what you mean, I just noticed that pic when I came to add the new photo of down The Gap and noticed the hotham pano. It looked awfully close to my one so I thought since mine was higher quality/FP I'd do a switch. But I certainly see the justice of your comments. I don't think that it's worth me doing a crop, as it would look pretty similar to yours. I've put your one back on. --Fir0002 08:08, 29 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
You're right; I only actually saw the new one wasn't mine when I thought the road was hard to see and that I'd cropped it more than that, and opened to check, and saw it was yours! Yes, yours is better quality, but if you did do the crop you'd probably have to do it off the original rather than this one to keep the better quality. (I also like that mine has some vehicles on the road (if you look close enough) which makes it easier to see the road; as best I can see, yours doesn't have vehicles). --jjron 09:36, 29 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I might just replace the one on the views, coz that's what my photo is more about. Also Image:the_great_dividing_range.jpg, and Image:mt_hotham_summer_scenery.jpg might be better see what you think - maybe this is gonna mean another gallery! :-) --Fir0002 10:03, 29 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I'd stick to one, unless you go the gallery. Either the one you had, or the summer scenery one cos it shows the road too. I'd actually like to get a series of pics along the road rather than have twenty all taken from the top of Hotham, even if they're not as scenic. But then set them up sequentially as though you were travelling from Wang to B'dale, or vice versa. --jjron 10:23, 29 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I was actually thinking of just one, I put the others up there as an alternative choice. But anyway I wen with the one I put up b4. See what you reckon. Re: Road, that would be pretty cool, but actually I'll upload this movie I made for the CWA - SC to b dale in 1/2 hr. It's got a voice over and all! It'll be pretty big file though, but what do you expect? --Fir0002 10:35, 29 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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History of the road

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An IP editor has left the below as an edit summary, but has not changed the text of the article. I have copied it here for posterity.

  • The section between Harrietville and Omeo was built by the Country Roads Board led by William Spargo, Australia's highest perched resident for 27 years. Known as the Hotham hermit, he and his brother Cecil, founded Hotham Heights. Bill previously worked on a section of the Great Ocean Road near Lorne and did such good work that he was offered the Alpine road job. I am his great nephew and had stories passed to me from my grandmother. I have inherited his diaries.

William Spargo is in the ADB. http://adb.anu.edu.au/biography/spargo-william-benjamin-bill-11738

This would be an excellent reference to add some of the quote to the article. Downsize43 (talk) 04:43, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Downsize43 (talk) 01:30, 23 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]