Talk:Grave goods
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[edit]I was brought to this article from the "neanderthals" page. If you are looking for historical "first occurence" of burial goods, then read that page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.139.24.170 (talk • contribs) 07:32, 29 September 2006
yeah — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.107.193.79 (talk • contribs) 21:41, 9 December 2006
sources
[edit]I went looking for possible sources for this; "grave goods" is generally the term that is used for these objects, though most books on the topic (that I found in worldcat, anyway) are about specific places. It's possible a more general book about funeral rites or anthropology would have a general overview that could be cited here. -- phoebe/(talk) 01:03, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
How literal would those beliefs be?
[edit]According to a famous argument by (I think) Chesterton, little old ladies from England believe that the dead can smell, therefore they throw flowers into the graves. The point being that we don't really know (and shouldn't unquestioningly assume) if those ancient peoples actually believed the dead could make use of the actual material objects given into their graves. So I wonder if the article should state so matter-of-factly that they believed the dead would use these things in the afterlife. -- 92.229.228.216 (talk) 23:02, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
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[edit]This Journal talked about the grave goods in early Roman civilian culture. I think it will be helpful for audiences to know the grave goods from different cultures.
This article talked about the relationship between the grave goods and the person's social class at that time.
The article talked about the grave goods in China, hang dynasty. I think it will be helpful read the grave goods' information from another culture.
The article talks about the grave goods culture in North Chile.
The article introduces many basic information and details of the concept of grave goods. It helps the audiences know more about grave goods.Florabaoxiao (talk) 00:43, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
Imported Grave Goods in Early Anglo-Saxon Economy
[edit]Grave goods were mostly found at the cemeteries where the dead lay for several years in Anglo-Saxon. Once dug out these products were exported to various countries since they were of high quality and could be reused or kept in museums.[1]
Amber Beads were located in the Baltic, Sicily, Romania, and Portugal among others. One cannot assume that such beads were imported into the country until studies are done to establish their place of origin. They are said to have been deposited in the sixth century in the graves located in Hollywell Row ad are spread throughout the central and eastern England. [2]
Amethyst Beads were believed to come from the eastern sides of Mediterranean during the Roman period. They are bereaved to originate from India and some from Egypt where they were used as ear drops. There is another argument that the beads were from the Frankish tribes, which were stolen from the graves of the Romans. One of the bad is believed to belong to the grave of Gilton Ash before the sixth century.Many Amethyst beads were found in areas between northeast Wiltshire and Cambridgeshire from various cemeteries[3]
Ivory Rings were ivory rings discovered in the Anglo-Saxon burial sites mainly gotten from ivory. The ivory is sad to have originated from the northern and the Mediterranean regions. The ivory rings can be traced back to the fifth, sixth, and the seventh centuries. There are other grave goods believed to have been imported such as crystal balls, crystal beads, cowrie shells, glass vessels, and wheel-thrown pottery. These were found in various graves in Anglo-Saxon Region[3].
Arnold, C.J (1984). "Roman Britain to Saxon England: an archaeological study". Routledge. Retrieved 28 February 2016. Rogers, P.W. (2007). "Cloth and clothing in Early Anglo-Saxon England, AD 450-700". Cloth and clothing in Early Anglo-Saxon England, AD 450-700. Huggett, J.W (1998). "Imported grave goods and the early Anglo-Saxon economy" (PDF). Medieval Archaeology. Retrieved 28 February 2016.
It is more information about this article.Florabaoxiao (talk) 19:15, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
More addition about Imported Grave Goods
[edit]Graves that existed between the sixth and the seventh century contains a varied number of prestige goods. These graves are mostly found in two regions of the north and west side of Europe. Since the kick off of the Roman era, most funerals were moved northwards from Germany and Denmark. The other group associated with the grave goods was from the Frankish world, which was as a result of the constant funerary methods which enhanced and promoted grave goods within the regions[6]Some of the grave goods included ring-hilted swords, Coptic bowls, gold coins and sword adornment. Most burials contained various and prestigious goods. Most of these grave goods were obtained from Francia either directly or as a result of redistribution. For example, the sword ornament was derived from Frankish power while gold coins were derived from Egypt as a result of redistribution.
The interaction among the regions associated with the grave goods was maintained through several factors. Marriage was the primary factor and played a significant role in the maintenance of the bond. The marriage alliances have enhanced the exchange of prestigious goods within the trading networks Most of the great items were obtained from the Frankish power and distributed to the peripheries. The peripheral areas included Austrasia in the Rhineland, Alamannia in southern Germany and Burgundy. The grave goods were distributed in a pattern that can be described either as monetary exchange or relocation of assets. The commercial exchange existed along the European Rivers while reallocation was done via the Merovingian courts. Most of the grave goods were 60-70% gold materials. The first place to obtain grave goods was from children's prolific grave at Tournai. It was later followed by continuous Merovingian prestigious burials in the Frankish region. For instance, the burial of Arnegunde. She was buried with a broad range of essential goods including her burial dress. Otherwise, male burials were not prestigious compared to women and children burials, which explains why most men except prominent men were buried ordinarily.
Funerals conducted in the peripheral regions such as Alamannia and Austrasia were accompanied with considerable riches regarding prestigious grave goods[7].The lavish funerary style also extended to the southern parts of England. The distribution of great and generous graves across the south –east part of England shows that England was within the sphere of Frankish power. It suggests that Frankish had an upper hand in political and economic control. The individuals that had power and authority in the Frankish empire were assigned a particular burial place. Most of their burials were accompanied by various ceremonies as well as exceptional grave goods[8].Such outstanding burials and ceremonies showed the influential power of the Frankish kingdom. Similarly, the elites in southern parts of England were given honorable and prestigious burial. Also, the Frankish political and economic power can be traced to Kent and south east of Britain[9].It was due to the recovery of a wide range of grave items. Also, the marriage alliance between Althelberht and the Frankish princess. Finally, the grave goods in the early Anglo-Saxon economy contributed to the creation of strong bonds among the trading groups.Florabaoxiao (talk) 23:37, 28 March 2016 (UTC)
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This post is filled with really good information that I think will be a great addition to the Wiki page! Some changes and room for improvement lay heavily in your grammar and writing. Try to re-read this post out loud and figure out where the grammar mistakes are and how you can fix them. Errors in grammar can sometimes make people assume a lack of education. Maybe even have a fluent English speaker read this through with you to help point out the mistakes! I definitely think that this is the most important thing you can do to improve your article. Happy editing! Doengesm (talk) 17:51, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
References
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First draft
[edit]I think overall your first draft looked very good. I liked the addition of more of the historical aspect of grave goods, including the different kinds of burial items. I also think that you did a great job expanding on the first and second pillars by talking about grave goods in other cultures and areas of the world. Perhaps the addition of information regarding the modern day practices of grave goods will enhance the article even more. I think there are a few grammatical errors that need fixing but aside from that you are off to a great start! Swineha9 (talk) 19:30, 10 April 2016 (UTC)Swineha9
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