Talk:Grandstand (TV programme)

Nooooo I created this article don't kill it and then merge it!!! Czesc26

Removing notorious events

Took out the Sobers 6x6s as that happened on 31/8/68 - hence a SUNDAY and can't have been on Grandstand as Sunday Grandstand didn't start until the 80s. The Bradford fire also removed as ITV had cameras at the ground not BBC (John Helm was commentator).

I suspect there could be an issue with some other events listed there such as Jacklin's hole-in-one - someone needs to provide a date to justify that it happened on Grandstand. Seedybob2 (talk) 16:40, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

no, not quite

It was a Saturday[1]

and it was televised[2]

leaky_caldron (talk) 21:16, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, misread my calendar ! Seedybob2 (talk) 09:14, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Removing Garfield Sobers Six Sixes

I am removing the six-sixes as being broadcast live, following this obituary to the producer who was on duty for Grandstand on the day. [[3]]. This confirms that the game was only being broadcast live to BBC Wales viewers (and not specifically to Grandstand) during the early part of the day and was drifting to nowhere. John Norman had been asked to stand down by Grandstand at 4.45pm which would have been the time of the football results coming in. He only kept the camera running "just in case" - therefore they would not have been broadcasting live. It also goes on to say the film went into news broadcasts rather than was shown live. It may well have made it on to air on Grandstand that day as a recording, after the football results for instance. Its unlikely though as an uplink facility to the Grandstand studio would not have been set up if they had been asked to "stand down". Whichever of these previous two sentences is correct is probably unverifiable now therefore it can't go in at the moment. Mfb72 (talk) 01:00, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

Removing Harvey Smith v-sign

Both these sources BBC News on this day and the Guardian] list the event as happening on 15 August 1971 which was a Sunday [4] - so couldn't have happened live on Grandstand - it may have been on live television, but not Grandstand which was only broadcast on Saturdays. Mfb72 (talk) 01:13, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

Further info on the "live events" section

I'm going to look into the original research and questionable verifiability in the "live events" section.

• Tony Jacklin hole-in-one, needs a date to confirm that it happened on the Saturday - some sources say it was shown live, others don't mention it. Some wikipedian with golfing expertise could do with looking into this one.
• Cambridge second sinking 1984 - BBC archive doesn't have any footage of the collision mentioned. [[5]] It happened an hour before the race, so BBC may have been following another sport event, at least not the boats. If it was shown live, the footage would be notorious enough to be out there somewhere.
• Bradford fire. Mentioned already above, it was ITV cameras that were at the match (John Helm commentated) - so its extremely unlikely that BBC would have covered the fire live. Gabby Yorath link is dead or behind a paywall, but her anecdotal story about watching it on Grandstand doesn't necessary stand up as verifiable source - she may have been mistaken because it was on World of Sport.
• Not all Frankie Dettori's 7 races were shown live, the last race finished at 5.35pm, by which time Grandstand had usually ended.[[6]].

Its a terribly unreliable and unverified section.Mfb72 (talk) 01:48, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

Viewing figures

Does anyone have details of the viewing figures for Grandstand (1958—2007)? Best Regards. DynamoDegsy (talk) 08:11, 30 July 2013 (UTC)