Talk:Gran i General Consell

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Contradictory bullet points

From the article:

Unlike, for example, the French Estates-General, the three estates represented in the Gran i General Consell were given equal representation.
The principle that the amount of participation granted to representatives in the Gran i General Consell should be in line with their contributions to society.
The democratic principle of decision-making based on the wishes of the majority.

The above bullet points are either unclear or mutually contradictory & the first is even self-contradictory.

The French Estates-General also gave the three estates equal representation. That was precisely one of the bones of contention of 1789: the Third Estate wanted double representation and a double voice.
"...in line with their contributions to society": but if the representation was equal, how could this be anything more than a platitude?
"...wishes of the majority": so how would this work if the First Estate (clergy) and Second (nobility) each had as much representation as the entire rest of the populace?

- Jmabel | Talk 15:26, 25 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Functionaries

I'm at a loss on some of these terms:

síndics: I don't think there is any equivalent English-language term; at various times, this has meant everything from a mayor to an ombudsman.
correu: What does this mean in this context? Normally the word means post/mail.
talaiers: What does this mean in this context? I only know it as a proper noun. All I can think of etymologically is a feller (of trees) but that makes no sense as a functionary of a court.

- Jmabel | Talk 00:45, 26 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the translation! I don't know of any equivalents for these terms, but the sindic is the name of one of the two people in the Sindicat de Fora, which is yet another article without a translation. Some more info on it can be found here. A talaier is someone who watches over a talaia (Torre des d'on es pot observar mirant de lluny per donar avís del que hom hi descobreix.). Correu is also given a definition in the same dictionary. I'll try and figure out which box I've put my Catalan-English dictionaries in tonight to see if any of those terms have a specific English equivalent. -Yupik (talk) 16:52, 26 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've taken a shot at it in the article. - Jmabel | Talk 08:00, 27 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]