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GENE SAVOY

I realize that Gene Savoy is a controversial figure but the criticism here is tendentious and completely unsupported by references. Unless someone does a better job of that, I feel that the information needs to be changed to a more verifiable position.Mumblio 07:43, 15 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

GRAN SAPOSOA

I agree with your observation. See my note under the Peru Project Banner. I am willing to put some time into this in future. I have access to photographs. owlsplace 21:03, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

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This article definitely needs a rewrite. The MSNBC article cited is no longer available. Savoy's AEFOSC teams have made five forays into this area accompanied by Peruvian archaeologists. Formal reports have been made. These are the references that should be cited in this article.

owlsplace 20:43, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

I disagree with your observation. The Wikipedia entry is truthful as written. The so-called formal reports are unavailable to the public. Savoy's claims that the so-called "city" of Gran Saposoa "dates back from the seventh century A.D., and includes thousands of circular stone buildings covering 80 square miles and is estimated to have housed 20,000 people" are preposterous, unsubstantiated and typical of the fraudulent grandstanding that nurtured the man's immense, deluded ego. There are no Chachapoya settlements with "thousands of circular stone buildings" anywhere. Kuelap has less than 500 such structures. The articles published by his so-called bona fide archaeologists are drivel... no maps of cities, no photographs of cities... just people posing next to stone walls or burial chambers. Nothing substantiated. Blaming the Peruvian government for the looting is outrageous. Did they really believe that the Peruvian National Institute of Culture had the resources to protect this remote frontier?

Change the entry if you want. It will be changed back sooner or later because people are learning the truth. ChachaScholar (talk) 06:26, 20 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Last edited at 07:56, 20 November 2009 (UTC). Substituted at 16:35, 29 April 2016 (UTC)