Talk:Graham Leonard

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War service

Looks like he probably also served as an officer in the Oxfordshire and Buckinghamshire Light Infantry during WWII, but more sourcing would be needed to confirm this. David Underdown (talk) 10:19, 28 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"Sir"?

I removed "Sir" from Leonard's name as it doesn't seem that he was ever entitled to use his knighthood as a title. Although he later became a Roman Catholic I suspect that he would still not be entitled to be known as "Sir" unless he had also formally "resigned" his Anglican orders - which I am confident was not the case. Therefore, unless there is evidence to the contrary, it should be presumed that he was never actually entitled to the title of "Sir". Anglicanus (talk) 15:19, 2 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ordination as Catholic Priest

The article states that he received conditional ordination as a Catholic priest. I do not understand how this can be possible. The Catholic Church considers all Anglican ordinations to be invalid (its actual terminology is "absolutely null and utterly void" see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostolicae_Curae). Therefore, he would have received non-conditional (i.e. typical)ordination from a Catholic Bishop. Conditional sacraments, according to Catholic teaching, are only conferred when the validity of the original conferral is dubious. This is not the case here, because the non-validity is certain. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.10.184.198 (talk) 00:06, 23 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ignore the above. Later in the article it is explained. Perhaps this should be made clear in the introduction? Perhaps '(see below)' should be written? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.10.184.198 (talk) 00:10, 23 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, the above is relevant. This article is confusing. It states he received Catholic priestly ordination, even though he had not previously been ordained deacon. Apparently John Paul II sanctioned this. The priest in question was formerly an Anglican cleric. Does this imply John Paul II affirmed the validity of the Anglican Diaconate? Really?

It states he was conditionally ordained to the priesthood. The basis of this was an Old Catholic co-consecrator at his Anglican episcopal consecration. That doesn't make any sense. This needs to be clarified. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.10.184.198 (talk) 00:25, 23 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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