Talk:Governors Island/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Ganesha811 (talk · contribs) 00:33, 13 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! I'm opening a Good Article Nomination review. Hoping to complete the review over the next couple of days. I'll be using the template below. Thanks! Ganesha811 (talk) 00:33, 13 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Rate	Attribute	Review Comment
1. Well-written:
	1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct.	Pass. Issues addressed. In lead: "Governors Island was originally an island that..." is awkward phrasing. Couldn't we just say "Governors Island was originally known as..., a Lenape name" or similar? The public park is mentioned twice in the lead, in the first paragraph and the last. Feels somewhat repetitive. Rephrase last paragraph to "the 43 acre public park hosts free arts and cultural events" or similar. Were there any Lenape residents, or was it uninhabited/used for hunting/whatever? If that information is available, would be good to add to 'Colonial period'. In 'mid-19th century and Civil War', it is mentioned twice that the Arsenal was separate from the Army - should only be mentioned once, but also - why? / what actually was the New York Arsenal? A little explanation would be good, maybe in note format, maybe in text. In 'Coast Guard operation', split into two sentences after '$100 million a year" for flow. Also "give up" instead of "give" in reference to Clinton. "helping to mitigate against the aggressive nature of the geese" is unclear - the geese's nature is unchanged, right? They are just no longer present. Rephrase for clarity.
	1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.	Pass. No issues.
2. Verifiable with no original research:
	2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline.	Well sourced, no large chunks of uncited information found. Pass.
	2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose).	High quality sources generally - books, well-respected journalistic sources, etc. Pass.
	2c. it contains no original research.	No issues found. Pass.
	2d. it contains no copyright violations or plagiarism.	Issues addressed. Pass. Minor issue: "plentiful hickory, oak, and chestnut trees" seems to be from here, should be rephrased. Same with "served as the backdrop for a number of historic events", identical phrasing, rephrase.
3. Broad in its coverage:
	3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic.	Some research turned up nothing important not already mentioned in article. Pass.
	3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).	Pass, no issues found - certainly detailed but not overly so.
	4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.	Pass, no issues found.
	5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.	Pass. Most work done in June. No edit wars.
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
	6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content.	Pass. No issues.
	6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.	Pass, issues addressed. I'm confused as to why the image File:Grills 5-6 GI jeh.jpg is placed where it is, especially with such a generic caption as "barbecue grills." Either the caption or image need to be improved, or else removed altogether. The File:Governors Island - New York City (4889320957).jpg YMCA image also seems oddly placed - there is no reference to the Gov. Island YMCA near it in the text. It seems a little like some images were just thrown in because they depict things on Governor's Island, without reference to whether they enhance the text or are relevant to the section they're in. The image captioned "10 inch guns at Fort Jay" has a similar issue, though less egregious than the ones above, probably because of the better caption.
	7. Overall assessment.

@Ganesha811: Thanks for the review. I have resolved the paraphrasing issues and replaced two of the problematic images. I moved the YMCA image down to the section where it is mentioned. epicgenius (talk) 01:44, 14 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- @Ganesha811: Thanks for additional comments. All issues in section 1(a) are now resolved. The New York Arsenal was simply an artillery division, so I have clarified that. epicgenius (talk) 15:53, 19 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Epicgenius: this article passes! I'll do the needful now. Nice work and congrats to you and everyone else who worked on it! Ganesha811 (talk) 20:59, 19 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]