Talk:Goulou Yue
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Claimed closeness to Old Chinese
[edit]I have again reverted the claim "Some linguists consider Goulou to be the closest extant variety to Old Chinese." The dead link offered as a source seems to be archived here. The video is unavailable, but apparently recorded a native speaker of the Yulin dialect. The attached caption is "This dialect of Cantonese is said to be of the oldest form of Mandarin." I see no mention of linguists (or Old Chinese), and indeed no linguist would call this dialect a form of Mandarin.
It is common for partisans of different dialects to claim that theirs is the most ancient, but in truth all the modern varieties have diverged in different ways, and all are now far removed from the current view of Old Chinese. What one sometimes sees in the literature is a statement that the X dialect preserves a reflex of feature Y from an older from of Chinese, rather claiming the dialect as a whole is particularly ancient. Since such a claim is bound to be controversial, the specific linguists making it should be named. Kanguole 09:46, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
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Consonants Table
[edit]It splits up the approximants into "voiced" and "labial". This is obviously silly, since all four approximants are voiced. It should be either "non-labial" and "labial" or "simplex" and "complex". Neither are that great... I think that it's best to add another row and to have /l/ and /j/ in separate rows. The "lateral" thingy can then cover the row with the lateral fricative and approximant together.
Is there a convention to only use separate rows for a single phoneme if it cannot possibly be avoided? Barefoot Banana (talk) 13:42, 28 August 2023 (UTC)