Talk:Gordon the Big Engine

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This article was nominated for deletion on 6 October 2020. The result of the discussion was redirect.

This page was proposed for deletion by Piotrus (talk · contribs) on 27 August 2020.

Missing Section

Hey, what happened to the qoutes section? It was just starting to look good. I don't think it's irrevalent or anything; these qoutes actually describe Gordon's big, pompous, proud character. Please return them to this article.Ohyeh 14:36, 29 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Quotes sections on articles such as this one are very superfluous, and I let them slide, but wasn't terribly happy keeping them there (had more important matters to take care of). I couldn't see much to justify keeping the section there. I didn't delete the section, but hopefully this reasoning makes the reasons clear, on behalf of whoever did delete the section. Any further concerns, check out WikiProject Thomas. Kind regards, Gonzerelli 11:00, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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BetacommandBot (talk) 23:39, 13 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Candidate For Deletion?

The article for Gordon the Big Engine should not be deleted. He is one of the main characters on Thomas & Friends and was one of the three original characters (alongside Edward and Henry) from The Railway Series. He's been there since the beginning for crying out loud! I just added two more sources over the past two days, that should help the article look a little better. My vote is to keep the article, however, if you higher ups decide to get rid of it, please just redirect it to the Thomas & Friends characters list article instead of deleting it entirely. --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 20:40, 28 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed the prod, but the proposer is likely to take this to a full deletion discussion next. There is some discussion of Gordon in this book in the context of gender equality in children's books. It's brief, but that's at least one out-of-universe RS discussing him. He also gets a passing mention in The Oxford Companion to Children's Literature. SpinningSpark 00:20, 31 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for removing the tag SpinningSpark, even if the article ends up eventually either being deleted or simply redirected. Should those two potential sources be added to the article? --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 22:40, 31 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The Oxford Companion could certainly be added. Childrens Literature and the Politics of Equality is most useful if you want to say something in the article about gender stereotyping. That's hardly surprising for a work of this age, but that's what Pinsent is discussing. That source also gives the date of publication of the book dedicated to Gordon (1953). SpinningSpark 00:29, 1 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. I'm completely new to editing so I still need to study editing guidelines before I start making changes, but I do have some suggestions as I'd hate to see this article disappear. I believe Gordon's article would benefit from a "character profile" section similar to the one on James's page, which would also cover his relationship with the other engines, such as his friendship with James and Henry, and arrogant disposition towards those smaller than him. Another suggestion is a section discussing his stint as the Shooting Star, with a link to the page for the engine his streamlined appearance is based on, and perhaps also including a picture of the Shooting Star so the page becomes more visually appealing (additional benefit is that it would provide an example of CGI Gordon's face, which differs somewhat from the physical model's face). That should put some meat on the article's bones. I'd love to hear your opinions. --ExpressComingThrough (talk) 17:38, 21 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Meat is less important than showing how this article passes WP:NFICTION/WP:GNG. See also WP:FANCRUFT. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:32, 22 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Of course it shouldn't be deleted. It's Gordon the Big Engine. ExpressComingThrough (nice name), please feel free as an editor to edit. Add what you can preferably with sources (but not always required in film or television summaries), and improve the page, you seem to have a clear vision. If what you write is deleted, bring that back to the talk page. The Gordon the Big Engine article seems essential for Wikipedia's The Railway Series collection, as are several other Railway Series articles which have been recently focused on. Randy Kryn (talk) 03:51, 22 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'm currently collecting and verifying sources (using the other engines' pages as guidelines), since that seems to be the most pressing matter. It may take a while. I appreciate Wikipedia's standards and standing, so I want to be thorough. The additional content I have in mind will have to wait, though I'm writing a draft for that as well. I'll get back to you once I've collected enough sources which I think may be relevant. Thank you both for your replies. --ExpressComingThrough (talk) 17:06, 22 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure if anyone will answer, but can we please bring back the article and improve it? In fact, let's bring back most of the individual character pages for the engines back. Thomasfan1000 (talk) 19:28, 4 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]