Talk:Gordon Coutts

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A fact from Gordon Coutts appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 12 June 2023 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Scottish painter Gordon Coutts left Australia without paying maintenance to his estranged wife, but was arrested in New Zealand?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2023/June. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Gordon Coutts.

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Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by BorgQueen (talk) 18:57, 5 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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... that Scottish painter Gordon Coutts tried to leave Australia without paying maintenance to his estranged wife? Source: "Gordon Coutts Committed". The Age. 1902-07-12. p. 8 – via Trove. Gordon Coutts, a well-known artist, who was arrested in Wellington, New Zealand, and brought to Melbourne on a charge of disobeying an order of the Fitzroy court for the maintenance of his lawful wife, and who was remanded last Tuesday, appeared at the City Court yesterday, when the case was proceeded with ... Coutts had on him £65 odd in cash, a credit note for £700, and a first class ticket to England in the name of "Mr. W. G. Taylor." He had with him also, as compagnon de voyage, a young woman, who was inconsolable at his arrest.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Chris Kreider
- Comment: Technically, this really isn't 5x expanded or new. However, before I started, the article consisted entirely of copyright violations copied and pasted from other sources, so I hope that will be taken into consideration.

5x expanded by Howcheng (talk). Self-nominated at 01:50, 17 May 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Gordon Coutts; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: I reviewed the article prior to Howcheng's editing and confirmed that it was largely in violation of copyright - when running it through Earwig, you can see that large chunks of the article were copy and pasted. Additionally, the additions that heavily expanded the page were unsourced. Per current copyvio policy, I think that the article would be reverted to this version[[1]] to correct the copyvio and sourcing issues had Howcheng not redone the article, and in this case, this expansion is much more than 5x. I think this is good to go. Upjav (talk) 14:32, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Follow-up comment to note that A4 of the Supplementary Guidelines for DYK specifically refers to copyvios as being an exception for 5x expansion. Still good to go. Upjav (talk) 14:57, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Howcheng and Upjav: How about: ALT ... that Scottish painter Gordon Coutts tried to leave Australia without paying maintenance to his estranged wife, but was arrested in New Zealand? BorgQueen (talk) 12:51, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like a good hook improvement to me! 162.212.108.80 (talk) 14:06, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- This was me accidentally logged out. Upjav (talk) 14:08, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  - @Upjav: please tick it then. BorgQueen (talk) 14:19, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  - Good to go. Upjav (talk) 14:21, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
—holly {chat} 16:58, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Gertrude

Who is Gertrude? 2A00:23EE:1210:5E18:84F6:710A:D60C:30D (talk) 07:08, 12 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

His third wife. —holly {chat} 18:06, 25 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]