Talk:Google TV (operating system)

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Why the Revue Died

Logitech hardware locked their device so that users could not root it without a soldering iron. Despite hundreds of requests and several web sites devoted to solving the various problems inevitable with a v1.0 device, Logitech steadfastly refused to follow the community development model that has been so successful for them with the SqueezeBox technology they bought from Slim Devices. Logitech turned down the help of a large group of computer professionals and talented amateurs that wanted to help make their product better - at no cost to Logitech - and consequently the product offering failed as users realized the futility of trying to work with a company that unilaterally rejects offers of help from its own customers.

To give one example: the sites blocking GTV are now doing so by reading the flash player IDs. If logitech permitted code modification on the Revue, a hack to set the flash player ID to "Internet Explorer on MS Windows 7", which was available to owners of rooted revues, would have become freely available. This would have made GTV blocking effectively impossible; solving the blocking problem would of course drive sales of Logitech equipment up.

Another example: Environmentally conscious Revue owners wanted a "power off" function. But because Logitech engineers rejected this idea, those customers had to use power strips to turn off their Revues. This in turn caused occasional hard powerdowns during firmware updates, bricking those revues. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.153.180.229 (talk) 17:45, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Citing source New York Times

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/18/technology/18webtv.html

Mathiastck (talk) 00:20, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Telescreen

Why is Telescreen an inappropriate See Also link? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.101.48.18 (talk) 08:06, 21 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Because the concepts are, for all practical purposes, irrelevant to one another. A telescreen is a fictional propaganda device in Nineteen Eighty-Four used by an authoritarian government to eliminate conspiracies against the regime. This is a device which is intended to allow individuals to access the internet from their TVs. Cyril Washbrook (talk) 13:29, 21 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Someone with better legal understanding- please add something about Hulu

I know that Hulu is blocked, so I didn't include it when I made the article "less like an advertisement" But I see that people have gotten around it, but this is something that they might patch. I know it has something to do with comcast, but I don't understand enough to add this.199.43.32.85 (talk) 14:54, 19 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Reference list

I suggest the implementation of {{Reflist|colwidth=30em}} on this article, because of the length of the reference list. Opinions, rejections? —bender235 (talk) 18:07, 18 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Clarification.

Is there only one model made? Or are Logitech, Sony et. al all releasing competing devices on the platform? I don't really buy Sony products anymore so I'm wondering if that means I can just get a Logitech version or not. For example with DirecTV there are various competitors all selling boxes on the platform. CaribDigita (talk) 23:39, 22 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Market Segmentation???

The author of the fragmentation/segmentation paragraph is clearly not a marketer (or at least isn't very well versed in it).

Fragmentation is generally a concept assigned to describing how one product becomes a pseudo-product class and many similar, but slightly different products all under the same class emerge. For instance Android Phone fragmentation is high as there are many devices all under one OS. Problems generally involve software compatability.

The author was correct in describing fragmentation. SEGMENTATION is not this at all. It is learned in basic marketing (i.e. business 101 or an intro to marketing class) that segmentation is more of a demographic tool; you gear products/product classes/advertising campaigns toward demographics. These specifically defined demographics are called MARKET SEGMENTS.

This should be clarified. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.247.155.152 (talk) 06:11, 24 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks; I indeed overstepped my zone of jargon familiarity. Product differentiation is more precise and I hope for further advice. Perhaps someone is familiar enough to write the exactly appropriate little marketing article if it doesn't exist yet. Also I'm unsure the paragraph is in the right article. Advice on that question is similarly welcome. Jim.henderson (talk) 01:37, 25 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Inaccurate Paragraph

The paragraph on fragmentation regarding Google TV is inaccurate. Let me explain.

In the context of Mobile phones, the Android operating system is, arguably, fragmented as there are many competing products offering not only different versions of Android--Froyo, Gingerbread, etc--but also different user-interface skins for the software--Motorola Blur, HTC Sense, etc. As a result of this, the user experience is varied; depending on the mobile phone purchased--even two phone running the same version of Android--it is possible to have two completely different experiences with a different user-interface, different pre-installed apps, different hardware requirements, etc. This describes fragmentation regarding Android mobile phones (and this argument can arguably be applied to tablets).

That being said, this argument doesn't apply to the Google TV platform, which to-date has only had two *major* release iterations with a third--to the Gingerbread version of Android--scheduled for later this year. All products--those from Logitech and Sony--run the same version of Google TV (unless someone doesn't have their device connected to the internet which would defeat the entire purpose of Google TV) with the same user-interface with the same underlying hardware architecture--Intel.

This paragraph would be suited for the Android page, or the android mobile phone or tablet page, but had no relevance to the Google TV page. Just because Google TV runs on top of Android doesn't mean it inherently suffers from fragmentation because Android-based phones do. Furthermore, any article which speaks about Google TV fragmentation states it based on the fact that there are two hardware offerings, The Logitech and Sony options. This is not fragmentation; it is choice in the same way that no one would say having the choice between Dell and Sony for a computer is Windows fragmentation.

Thoughts? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Robfrawley (talk • contribs) 08:36, 31 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Screenshot

The screenshot is very out-of-date, and there are no Google TV devices (whether 1st or 2nd gen) that use this interface. Dtaylor05 (talk) 15:58, 18 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Dtaylor05, I agree with you. There are some templates in here http://www.sony.co.uk/hub/google-tv with the latest interfaces, what do you think about updating it to one of those? I am not sure, though, if we can just update the image without going through WikiCommons, I will try to find out and let you know. Many thanks, Zalunardo8 (talk) 13:18, 11 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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New Google TV

The new google TV service was launched 9/30/2020, what about that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 0w0 catt0s (talk • contribs) 18:39, 30 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I have moved this page to Google TV (discontinued) and replaced it with the new article. It is very incomplete, though. Thanks, EDG 543 (talk) 19:48, 30 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]