Talk:Good government

This article was nominated for deletion on 8 December 2023. The result of the discussion was redirect.

OK, this is definitely POV ("the opposite is self-government?). Regardless of the merits of the good govt. movement, there needs to be a neutral encyclopedic discussion. I'll come back in a bit and clean this up, but for now I've added the NPOV header. Meelar (talk) 04:09, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree that this is POV. The Canadian "good government" tradition developed from the British practise of accepting the investment of power in the Crown until it was abused -- and even then that power was only partially eroded, and rarely delegated directly to Parliament. Perhaps altering the phrase that irked you to "the opposite is representative government" would assuage you. In any event, I wouldn't call this a POV distortion -- the idea that self-government isn't ideal may be foreign and even incomprehensible to you, and that's exactly what the good government tradition is about -- but that doesn't make it POV. 80.178.176.116 14:34, 5 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Removed NPOV header. The referenced phrase about self-government has already been removed. the point seems moot. 69.51.153.89 (talk) 22:13, 3 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Unclear and too narrow

This article does not really capture the debate over "good government" very well. It does not cite its sources. Furthermore, it does not provide a history or the importance of this term. The article should furthermore highlight the relationship to good governance. Finally, "good government" also has a special meaning in former British colonies such as Hong Kong or Singapore. There it refers to effecient rule and nonpartisanship. I may be able to write about that in the future. --Ghormax (talk) 10:50, 25 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I would agree that this does not very accurately articulate the Commonwealth meaning of the term good government. I think the Peace, Order and Good Government article touches on it but even in that article it does a poor job explaining how good government relates, in a more functional sense, to the government needing to maintain the confidence of the legislature (aka the commons). The modern implication of this is quite significant for Parliamentary democracies because without "good government" (the support of a majority of the legislature), a government would fall on matters of confidence (e.g. a Budget Bill). This page should clarify the distinction between good government in Commonwealth Parliamentary democracies, versus the American and Jeffersonian meaning. Further, to describe "good government" in the context of Peace, Order and Good Government (POGG) under the title of a "political slogan" completely misconstrues the meaning of the phrase in the context I have described above. Mhellin (talk) 19:17, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Good government and Sharia-compliant political Islam

Muslim Perspectives on Justice, Peace, Diversity, and Good Government http://ustpaul.ca/upload-files/HumanSciences/cours_2012_13/Justice_Peace_Diversity_and_Good_Government.pdf 79.251.121.59 (talk) 15:02, 20 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Of course a Sharia-compliant way of "Good government" won't create a secular democracy, instead it will lead to an Islamic theocracy (hakimiyya Allah; caliphate). 79.251.121.59 (talk) 15:05, 20 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Merger Discussion

I propose that this page be internationalized, and a page created for Good government (United States) into which the page Goo-goos would be merged.E.M.Gregory (talk) 19:15, 9 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]