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Qualification summary

As per other related articles, the Qualification summary lists *all* qualified countries per gender/event. Right now that is not the case, and therefore this table is necessary. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 16:29, 29 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The golf consists of two individual events. There is no team aspect. Having an individual split by country for both events and a summary table here and the same information at Golf at the 2020 Summer Olympics and again at Golf at the Summer Olympics is all completely mad. The fact that other sports do it, is no reason for golf to do it too. This is just stats for stats sake. What would be much more useful would be if editors actually wrote some interesting referenced stuff about the actual golf, rather than this obsession with how many players there were for each country. This is simply not encyclopedic content. Nigej (talk) 17:42, 29 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I echo that. In addition, the table being inserted merely duplicates the two other flag-counting tables in the article, presenting exactly the same information in a slightly different format. It is redundant. We should have the information presented once, in one format or the other, certainly not both. _wjemather^{please leave a message...} 18:38, 29 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

We really don't need both the "qualification summary" and the "qualification by country" tables. Would prefer to keep the "qualification summary" as it provides both men's and women's in place. -- Jonel (Speak to me) 18:38, 29 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, I have removed qualification by country tables, and combined them into the qualification summary table. The only thing missing is by continent in the summary, which I don't think we really need. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 23:11, 29 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'm happy with that, although I've moved it to the end on the basis that the interesting stuff about who qualified should be before this rather uninteresting statistical summary. Nigej (talk) 07:29, 30 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I have no preference as to which format prevails (I actually do not see the encyclopedic value of these tables and wouldn't be averse to getting rid altogether, but it was agreed to keep them for the Olympics during an earlier discussion at WT:GOLF). I also agree with Nigej that (whichever is decided upon) the table(s) should be located after the encyclopedic content. Further, it would have been better to wait for this discussion to near consensus before unilaterally enforcing one's personal preference. _wjemather^{please leave a message...} 10:01, 30 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

As of this conversation I started in April: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk%3AWikiProject_Golf&type=revision&diff=1017916691&oldid=1017912292 , it was agreed that we would have the nationalities in the field grid for the Olympic golf. And we have had it for two weeks now. I went to it yesterday and found it disappeared for the first time. We agreed that it would be there, so this should not even be up for discussion. All I have seen the last year in a half is one thing after another disappearing from Wikipedia that were considered harmless and acceptable before. The whole reason I went to the trouble of going to the Wikipedia golf talk page back in April in the first place was to keep this kind of thing from happening. I expected people to keep to their word. and now two weeks in, suddenly the subtraction begins in the middle of the golf competition as well as people going back on their word? Nope, it doesn't work that way. Johnsmith2116 (talk) 15:07, 4 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"Wikipedia is the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit" and that means that anyone can change any edit any of us make. No edit is ever set in stone and if we're not prepared to accept that then Wikipedia is not the place to be. The same applies to discussions. No discussion is set in stone either. Later discussions can agree to change earlier ones. Things change, that's just the way it is. As to the issue at hand. The information in the two competing formats is exactly the same (except for the unimportant continent aspect), so we're only talking about the format of the information. The earlier discussion agreed that something could be added but I'm not sure we ever agreed that it had to be one particular style. Nigej (talk) 15:40, 4 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The format of the table was not really discussed at WT:GOLF, only the principle of having a table of some description. The aim of this discussion is to reach consensus on the format. _wjemather^{please leave a message...} 16:08, 4 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This is an Olympic event first, not golf. Each individual Olympic sport has a table summarizing the sport (per WP:OLYMPICS) with all events, which was agreed upon earlier in this article. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 20:04, 22 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It was never agreed on. You and Jonel want one style, Johnsmith2116 wants a different style, two of us have no preference. Nigej (talk) 05:05, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]